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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1400 on: December 31, 2015, 04:00:31 PM »
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So, after dusting a few cards, I will have enough for a new legendary. Since I really want to try control warrior, I want to craft Grommash. However, I also want to try out dragon decks, but I don't have any Blackrock except wings 1 and 2 and no Ysera. So... Grommash for now, Ysera later? What do you think?
Ysera is an all around better card you can use in multiple decks, I'd craft that first (I still need to craft myself a copy :P).

Craft for the decks you want to play.  Also, Ysera is really only useful in Control Warrior (where I'd argue there are better options, I'm actually partial to Rafaam, I think he boosts the control paladin matchup a ton) and dragon priest.  And if you're playing any kind of warrior, you basically need Grom.  If you want to play dragon priest, get BRM and craft Ysera.  If you want to play warrior, Grom is far more important.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1401 on: December 31, 2015, 04:41:00 PM »
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I guess what I meant was Ysera could be used in both of the deck types he wants to explore while Grom could only be used in one... that gives Ysera more value in my head at least.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1402 on: January 01, 2016, 12:40:04 AM »
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I guess what I meant was Ysera could be used in both of the deck types he wants to explore while Grom could only be used in one... that gives Ysera more value in my head at least.

The problem with that line of thinking is you really can't run control warrior without grom, but you can run it without ysera.  Crafting ysera doesn't really give you more options, because crafting it doesn't let you play control warrior.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1403 on: January 07, 2016, 03:04:00 PM »
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Turns out 3 flamestrikes, along with a plethora of Mages other best cards, is really good



The only loss came from a shaman that got a totem golem off tuskarr totemic on both turn 3 and turn 4.

My personal favorite match of the run was turn 1 mana wyrm into

turn 2 - flamecannon
turn 3 - flamecannon
turn 4 - fireball
turn 5 - fireball
turn 6 - coin, flamestrike
turn 7 - frostbolt
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1404 on: January 12, 2016, 04:37:17 AM »
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My latest arena offering 4-drop section. I was offered another Chillwind Yeti but I took a Sorcerer's Apprentice instead.



I also drafted a Mechwarper and Tinkertown Technician. No Chuggas though. :(


Results update: Went 4-3. Every loss was to another Mage and I lost every time I played a Mage. All the 4-drops meant I had to be really lucky to get anything I could play turn 1 or 2 (even with all the 2-drops) and they all had Mana Wyrm turn 1 with spells to follow up and clear my board every turn. The last loss was to a Mage that had Enraged Worgen and the 2/3 that also enrages and just kept pinging them to activate them. With no AoE I couldn't clear them fast enough. /sigh
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1405 on: January 16, 2016, 05:23:53 PM »
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So... Anyone wondering how Mechazod would react to two Lorewalker Chos on the board (one copied by Mirror Entity), he does, in fact, end up playing two copies of Kill the Lorewalker. It was kind of sad.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1406 on: January 23, 2016, 10:51:02 PM »
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Just hit legend again.  Switched back to Midrange Hunter (I was working on the other golden heroes), so that deck has carried me to legend 3 times.  That deck might not be meta popular right now but it is my jam.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1407 on: February 02, 2016, 04:44:10 PM »
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1408 on: February 02, 2016, 06:18:57 PM »
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Just hit legend again.  Switched back to Midrange Hunter (I was working on the other golden heroes), so that deck has carried me to legend 3 times.  That deck might not be meta popular right now but it is my jam.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1409 on: February 02, 2016, 08:26:07 PM »
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1410 on: February 03, 2016, 01:59:38 AM »
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Bravo for them making Standard a thing! I'm a little irked about the whole making old expansions unavailable at the store... I mean I'm always going to be buying the adventures, but it seems really lame that new players won't be able to buy old adventures...
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1411 on: February 03, 2016, 07:43:42 AM »
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Bravo for them making Standard a thing! I'm a little irked about the whole making old expansions unavailable at the store... I mean I'm always going to be buying the adventures, but it seems really lame that new players won't be able to buy old adventures...
That's exactly how I feel. The adventures are a nice, single-player aspect of the game and I question why they are cutting that off from new players (as well as cutting off a possible source of money for them).

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1412 on: February 04, 2016, 01:42:17 AM »
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That's exactly how I feel. The adventures are a nice, single-player aspect of the game and I question why they are cutting that off from new players (as well as cutting off a possible source of money for them).
I think... it's about making the game as accessible as possible. By not having the old adventures (which could only be used for Tavern Brawl or "Wild") it's impossible for a new player to get confused and buy an adventure they cannot use for "Standard" ranked play. Stupid... but hey look how long it took for us to get new deck slots ::)
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1413 on: February 21, 2016, 09:52:18 AM »
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Hello, all... I have just recently finished buying Blackrock Mountain, so I own all the adventures but League of Explorers, which I have yet to start on. So... Is LoE worth my time and gold, or should I just kind of ignore it?
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1414 on: February 21, 2016, 06:12:48 PM »
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Hello, all... I have just recently finished buying Blackrock Mountain, so I own all the adventures but League of Explorers, which I have yet to start on. So... Is LoE worth my time and gold, or should I just kind of ignore it?

League of Explorers has a lot of meta worthy cards in it. Mounted Raptor is used in a few druid decks, though there are generally better options (the card looks to be much better when standard drops, however), Forgotten torch is used in freeze mage (and occasionally tempo mage), Ethereal Conjurerer is used in some tempo mages, Keeper of Uldaman is used in basically all paladin decks, all the priest cards are used at least to some degree in fatigue priest decks,  Tomb pillager breathed new life into miracle rogue, Tunnel Trogg is a staple in aggro shaman, Dark Peddler is a staple in Zoo, Elise is used in some fatigue decks, Reno created the Renolock deck, Brann sees some zoo and some dragon priest usage, and Finley is a staple in aggro shaman.

Also keep in mind that when standard drops, many of the cards in LoE could become more playable due to the smaller cardpool.  I think League of explorers is worth it, it has many cards that are important to many decks, but if its worth it to you depends on how much you play the game, and how competitive you want to be in the game.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1415 on: February 21, 2016, 06:17:47 PM »
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Hello, all... I have just recently finished buying Blackrock Mountain, so I own all the adventures but League of Explorers, which I have yet to start on. So... Is LoE worth my time and gold, or should I just kind of ignore it?

As a new Hearthstone player as of a week and a half ago, I had no familiarity with any of the adventures, but LoE was the first one I bought. I have since bought the other two, and I would say they are all farily similar. The bosses are pretty standard for the most part, but there are a couple where you aren't really fighting a boss, so much as you are trying to survive, which makes things somewhat interesting.

As for the legendary characters, compared to the ones in the other sets, I would probably put them on a lower tier for the most part, and from what I have seen in my limited experience they are more useful for casual play/just-for-fun decks. Reno Jackson is kind of a fun trick, and I have been using him in my Tavern Brawl deck from this past week, and he has been very helpful in that particular format. But I have found him to be rather unimpressive otherwise. In the ~10 or so games I have faced someone using Elise Starseeker, I think I only saw the Golden Monkey played once (the map was probably played in ~5 of those) but even in the one where it was played, it was too late in the game for my opponent to take advantage of the Legendaries. Sir Finley Mrrgleton is actually pretty fun, and I have used him in some competitive decks; my usual class thus far has been Mage, and it is sometimes nice to turn my fire shot into one of the better late-game powers like the Armor, Heal or Hunter shot. It's also nice because if it's late game and you don't have many cards, you can use your original Hero power, play Finley, then your new Hero power can be used right away. And his 1-cost makes him not very cost-prohibitive. Brann seems like he could be great, and I have had some successes with him, the biggest downside is that if your Battlecry targets a particular character, the second use targets the same character no matter what (I found that out when I thought I could silence 2 minions with Owl, but then it turned out he silenced the same minion twice).

Can't recall if I'm forgetting anything, I would probably say most of the class cards are pretty standard. But again, this is all coming from a relative n00b, so take that for what it is.

EDIT: See above for a more thorough analysis... ;) I have yet to understand what any of the deck construct names really mean other than the standard lingo.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1416 on: February 29, 2016, 07:29:25 PM »
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I just started playing hearthstone, and do not intend on spending any money on it in the near future. What decks are dust-lite? what should I focus on with my gold? thanks in advance!
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1417 on: February 29, 2016, 09:22:48 PM »
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I just started playing hearthstone, and do not intend on spending any money on it in the near future. What decks are dust-lite? what should I focus on with my gold? thanks in advance!

Well a professional player recently made the climb to legend in less than 2 weeks on a free to play account using aggro paladin.  Aggro paladin is a very dust-lite deck.  Zoo is also relatively dust-lite (though zoo can gain significant improvement in dust investment with imp gang boss, loatheb, doomguards, sea giants and more).  Face Hunter is also pretty cheap.  Tempo Mage can be run on a budget but you are probably missing out on some of the best cards from the deck if you do so.

Important for you is probably not to spend any gold on naxxramas or goblins vs gnomes because both of those sets will be rotating out when the next set drops.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1418 on: March 01, 2016, 12:06:53 AM »
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Before they announced Standard I would have said Mech Mage is pretty easy to get since a lot of the good mechs to add to mage cards are commons. However, as Drrek said, GvG will be rotating out so I would concur with his recommendations at this point.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1419 on: March 01, 2016, 09:11:12 AM »
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Regarding formats, you can still ladder to Legend rank in Wild format. The only difference between the two reward-wise is that most tournaments (I believe) will be using Standard.

If you can build a cheap deck in Wild mode, give it a shot.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1420 on: March 01, 2016, 07:26:28 PM »
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I just started playing hearthstone, and do not intend on spending any money on it in the near future. What decks are dust-lite? what should I focus on with my gold? thanks in advance!

Well a professional player recently made the climb to legend in less than 2 weeks on a free to play account using aggro paladin.  Aggro paladin is a very dust-lite deck.  Zoo is also relatively dust-lite (though zoo can gain significant improvement in dust investment with imp gang boss, loatheb, doomguards, sea giants and more).  Face Hunter is also pretty cheap.  Tempo Mage can be run on a budget but you are probably missing out on some of the best cards from the deck if you do so.

Important for you is probably not to spend any gold on naxxramas or goblins vs gnomes because both of those sets will be rotating out when the next set drops.
So spending gold on the league of explorers would still be a good option?
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1421 on: March 02, 2016, 01:42:20 PM »
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Most hilarious finish... Today, I was playing dragon priest against a Paladin Murloc rush, and in the end game, I thoughtstealed an Anyfin Can Happen from his deck... I used it to finish him off. Oh, the irony...

EDIT: There is a downside to this excellent day, though. Got Nozdormu in a pack... Couldn't get Alex, or Ysera, no...
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1422 on: March 02, 2016, 02:05:53 PM »
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Most hilarious finish... Today, I was playing dragon priest against a Paladin Murloc rush, and in the end game, I thoughtstealed an Anyfin Can Happen from his deck... I used it to finish him off. Oh, the irony...

EDIT: There is a downside to this excellent day, though. Got Nozdormu in a pack... Couldn't get Alex, or Ysera, no...

I'll never understand why people are upset opening a bad legendary.  That's still 400 dust you didn't have before, and significantly over the expected value of the pack.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1423 on: March 02, 2016, 03:28:13 PM »
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Ha, it's not so much that, I suppose... I just keep opening dumb ones, and it makes me wish that I would actually open ones I could use. I've gotten Tinkmaster, Nozdormu...
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #1424 on: March 05, 2016, 05:41:04 PM »
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Hey, I've got this dragon priest deck that I like, but not sure about some stuff...

2x Power Word:Shield
2x Northshire Cleric
2x Twilight Whelp
2x Shadow Word:Pain
1x Faerie Dragon
2x Wyrmrest Agent
2x Shadow Word: Death
1x Thoughtsteal
2x Blackwing Technician
2x Dark Cultist
1x Hungry Dragon
1x Twilight Guardian
2x Holy Nova
2x Azure Drake
2x Blackwing Corrupter
2x Holy Fire
1x Dr. Boom
1x Nefarian

Obvious additions: Ysera (don't have her yet), possibly another Twilight Guardian (I only have 1). Removals: Possibly one of the Holy Fires, as well as the Faerie Dragon. Anything glaring that I am missing? As it stands, I am thinking of adding Chromaggus, so as to have a little more support in the end game.
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