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Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« on: December 18, 2015, 03:27:04 AM »
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Just got back from it. Pretty good.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2015, 04:49:16 AM »
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I have some small quibbles with it as a movie its self (mostly related to the movie leaving out background info and leaving certain plot elements unraveled for the sake of having sequels)... but overall a very good movie!
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2015, 01:12:49 PM »
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I saw it this morning with my wife and 8 year old son. We all enjoyed it. Very well done!
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2015, 02:34:18 PM »
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2015, 02:52:44 PM »
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I'm not going to lie, I enjoyed returning to the star wars universe. That being said, if you take off the nostalgia blinders and look at the film purely on its own merits it's pretty bad. Without too many spoilers, it underwhelmed in terms of recycled plot points, the twists were predictable and often fell flat and the 30 year gap left way too many holes. Presumably some of these will be filled in during VIII, but I am worried about a few of them being left unexplained.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2015, 04:30:43 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2015, 01:23:00 AM »
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leaving certain plot elements unraveled for the sake of having sequels)
Was it to the extreme that was Back to the Future 2 (which seemed like the whole thing was really just a preview to Back to the Future 3)?

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2015, 04:18:16 PM »
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leaving certain plot elements unraveled for the sake of having sequels)
Was it to the extreme that was Back to the Future 2 (which seemed like the whole thing was really just a preview to Back to the Future 3)?
Not exactly like that... Back to the Future has cliff hangers in a positive way, while Star Wars leaves a lot of background information out. Drrek's spoiler post addresses what I was talking about if you want to venture in there!
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2015, 10:54:46 PM »
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There wasn't a dull scene in this movie for me! Though the story was thoroughly and entirely predictable (from the first scenes), if you go to a Star Wars movie for details about the plot, and if you let them (or lack of) ruin the movie for you, you're missing the point. It's all about the characters- all of which were portrayed flawlessly, for my money. Every emotional scene landed, and there was just enough old mixed with new to let the next two movies take off and run with new elements and leave most of the old plot treads behind (at least I hope, I would be disappointed if the other two were as familiar as this one).

Overall, the familiarity of the plot is probably my only minor nitpick, along with a few non-important details. It was extremely enjoyable for me; right up there with Mad Max and Creed competing as my favorite movies of this year! Not perfect, but there are arguably no perfect movies.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2015, 11:07:53 PM »
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hands down better than the prequels!  I enjoyed it and would actually like to see it again.  There are definitely things you can nitpick but the original trilogy had stuff too, the sum total however was good.

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Though the story was thoroughly and entirely predictable (from the first scenes), if you go to a Star Wars movie for details about the plot, and if you let them (or lack of) ruin the movie for you, you're missing the point. It's all about the characters- all of which were portrayed flawlessly, for my money.

I agree.  While the vagueness of the politics, galactic geography, passage of time, etc was a little annoying I still enjoyed the main characters development where it felt like most of the effort was focused in the movie.  The plot is really just a backdrop and while not great the parts that mattered were well done.  I liked the acting and thought the humor in this movie really added to it.

There were some missed opportunities that I hope the next movies can leverage.

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« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2015, 06:08:42 PM »
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I agree with those that felt the movie was predictable and unoriginal. I felt like I was watching a TV spinoff rather than a feature film.

I enjoyed watching it, but I wouldn't watch it again in the theater. I can wait for Blu-ray. I say that because the original Star Wars movie is one of only two movies I have ever seen more than once in the theater (Jurassic Park is the other). I saw Episode IV twelve times in the theater.  ;)
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2015, 06:33:29 PM »
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I loved it a lot! This was the first real Star Wars movie I got to see in theaters. (The only Star Wars movies I got to see were the Clone Wars movie and the Phantom Menace 3-D re-release.)

Here are my gripes about the movie though.
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Overall, I loved the movie and I plan on seeing again. It was great to see the old characters again and the new protagonists are awesome! I can't wait to see Episode 8. :)
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2015, 07:38:35 PM »
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I loved the movie, way better than the prequels. I loved how they portrayed light saber fights especially. Does anyone know who the older guy was that gave po the piece of the map at the beginning that ren killed?
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2015, 09:15:17 PM »
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2015, 05:04:38 AM »
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I think there is more to Ren that what we see. I think he's a Jedi pretty much undercover. I like how he's immature and still learning and looks up to his grandfather, although it is assumed that he looks up to Darth Vader when in reality he trained with Luke, so he would know that Vader actually threw Palapatine off the rail and turned good. Sooooo, maybe he looks up to the Anakin Darth Vader, how he became good, and "finish" what he could not, meaning destroy The Dark Side for good. Doing whatever it takes to make Snoke trust him fully. I do wish his voice seemed a little more intimidating, and he didn't look anything like Han/Leia's son, but that's irrelevant. Some things weren't necessarily obvious, but wasn't hard to speculate.
Fin is probably Lando's son, but not sure who's parents are Rey's, I highly doubt she's a Skywalker. Personally, I loved what they did with Luke, who cares if he was second in the credits, I want his story hyped up and I have to wait to see what happened with him. I didn't like Starkiller and how it was destroyed within one movie. Not only was it not original, when they blew it up I just sat there watching being like...why even include Starkiller? C'mon JJ, think of your own ideas for once. So yes, it had a lot of similarities to A New Hope, but minor things, nothing that influence how the story will be identical. I think there is enough hidden between Rey and Luke, even Ren, that will make for a great story. Also there was no Jar Jar, or anything remotely close to him. The stormtrooper captain female also can become a Fett like character, which could be interesting, long as she's not the same character as Boba, make her original and unique.
I thought the humor was awesome, subtle and funny, not overwheming. The special effects were good and not Michael Bay'esque. The amount of characters that they had to show, develop, and intertwine all while telling the story was, in my opinion, done well. I know some of these posts are kind of ragging on details being left out, but it makes for more of an interesting story, I mean here we are talking about it. The fact that they have a 30 year gap, a good story, and connected old and new characters was impressive enough. I'm sure Luke tells us more in episode VIII as well as Ren and Snoke due to his training, and you will get to see what is going on with The Resistance.
Plenty of potential, and the story seems to be moving along in a great direction, I'm excited for the next episode, but not excited for the in between anthology movies. C'mon Disney, don't squeeze too much money out of your fans, and don't make a movie just because you have the rights, or maybe cause the contract. Hopefully the anthology will explain more, but be entertaining.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2015, 03:37:49 PM »
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Good point. I might have to go see it again to see Kylo's character again.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2015, 10:02:49 PM »
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Were there some things that I was disappointed about?  Sure.
Were some things that I thought were really cool? Definitely.
Did Disney kill Star Wars, like people were scared of a while back? Surely not.
Did I leave the theater feeling excited, and did it "feel like a Star Wars movie"? Definitely so.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2015, 09:16:44 AM »
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« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2015, 02:26:46 PM »
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Is it possible that she had training from Luke before he disappeared. She would've been very little and could have only subconscious memories but that training could be showing up now.

I mean how else can she climb 200 yards of rope while junking, defeat multiple people with only a stick and out run many others?
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« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2015, 03:05:11 PM »
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It was soooo disappointing.... I thought it was an terrible movie. I had just watched the old ones and was pumped to see everything in better animation.  I bet Disney cut corners on the plot because they knew people would still see it regardless. Fool me once  ;)

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« Reply #20 on: December 28, 2015, 04:47:59 PM »
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« Reply #21 on: December 28, 2015, 08:54:37 PM »
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Is it possible that she had training from Luke before he disappeared. She would've been very little and could have only subconscious memories but that training could be showing up now.

I mean how else can she climb 200 yards of rope while junking, defeat multiple people with only a stick and out run many others?
I'm not really sure about that. she was old enough to remember that she was dropped off on the planet and told to wait, so I'm sure she would have remembered any training she had up to that point.
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