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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #175 on: July 18, 2014, 03:14:15 AM »
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Ever since my 11 win run, I've been doing very poorly in the arena.  A few 5-6, but mostly >3, which used to only happen about once a week.  What am I doing wrong? Too high of mana curve? (last card is a Sprint)


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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #176 on: July 18, 2014, 03:53:04 AM »
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Looks really solid to me. What did this deck end up going?
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #177 on: July 18, 2014, 04:25:36 AM »
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A disappointing 2-3. I was pretty optimistic about it going into it, but at least 2 of the 3 losses were kind of out of the blue stuff (I don't remember the first loss), even if I had control over the midgame (and often endgame).  Both times they were down to about 2 HP and I had the kill next turn.  I guess I took some risks I shouldn't have taken, but I'm not a bad Arena player. For a while there, I was averaging 5-6 wins pretty consistently.  Lately I've been in a rut.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #178 on: July 18, 2014, 05:25:28 AM »
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That is an insanely good deck, I'm surprised it only went 2-3. But sometimes it happens. I watched one of the best Arena players, Hafu, go 0-3 yesterday while streaming on Twitch.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #179 on: July 18, 2014, 03:42:25 PM »
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #180 on: July 18, 2014, 03:53:37 PM »
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RIP in pieces Miracle Rogue: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs13aIsCIAArMiv.png:large

It will hurt Miracle for a while while everyone has the shiny new toy in their decks, but then Miracle will be played less because of this card, and as the card finds it has less to counter because less people are playing Miracle, some will switch it out for a more meta specific card, and then some will switch back to miracle with their counter being less prevalent.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #181 on: July 18, 2014, 04:39:22 PM »
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RIP in pieces Miracle Rogue: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bs13aIsCIAArMiv.png:large

It will hurt Miracle for a while while everyone has the shiny new toy in their decks, but then Miracle will be played less because of this card, and as the card finds it has less to counter because less people are playing Miracle, some will switch it out for a more meta specific card, and then some will switch back to miracle with their counter being less prevalent.
Isn't that the basic concept of metagaming?  It'll be extremely useful in tournaments.

I'm glad Miracle is going down though.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #182 on: July 19, 2014, 12:37:13 AM »
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Freeze Mage, Miracle Rogue, Combo Druid, all the top decks this card hits. Huge buff to aggro decks, especially Zoo. I would not surprised to see this nerfed to 6 mana just like Sylvanas was.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #183 on: July 19, 2014, 09:39:37 AM »
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Freeze Mage, Miracle Rogue, Combo Druid, all the top decks this card hits. Huge buff to aggro decks, especially Zoo. I would not surprised to see this nerfed to 6 mana just like Sylvanas was.

I seriously hope they do not nerf this. Spells have very few counters right now, this is a much needed card.

One ability I REALLY wish they would add is spell-taunt. Your opponent's targeted spells would have to be used on spell-taunt minions.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #184 on: July 19, 2014, 11:40:31 AM »
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It's called Spellbender. :P

I once got a Blessing of Kings on my Spellbender one time in Arena. GG.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #185 on: July 19, 2014, 12:11:24 PM »
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It's called Spellbender. :P

I once got a Blessing of Kings on my Spellbender one time in Arena. GG.

Why should one class out of nine get the spell counters (spellbender and counterspell), when all classes have spells?

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #186 on: July 19, 2014, 04:33:49 PM »
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That's like saying why does 3 classes out of nine get secrets. Because they do. That's what differentiates them.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #187 on: July 21, 2014, 05:41:05 PM »
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That is an insanely good deck, I'm surprised it only went 2-3. But sometimes it happens. I watched one of the best Arena players, Hafu, go 0-3 yesterday while streaming on Twitch.

I totally watched that as well, but then she got a 12 win run right after! She's so good to watch for Arena tips and tricks, but she is vulgar at times (just providing caution).

My favorite streamer to watch is Reynad who made the Zoo deck so popular. He's hilarious, and has fantastic taste in music.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #188 on: July 21, 2014, 05:59:39 PM »
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A bunch of new naxx cards were revealed today.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #189 on: July 21, 2014, 06:26:14 PM »
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That is an insanely good deck, I'm surprised it only went 2-3. But sometimes it happens. I watched one of the best Arena players, Hafu, go 0-3 yesterday while streaming on Twitch.

I totally watched that as well, but then she got a 12 win run right after! She's so good to watch for Arena tips and tricks, but she is vulgar at times (just providing caution).

My favorite streamer to watch is Reynad who made the Zoo deck so popular. He's hilarious, and has fantastic taste in music.

I don't think there are any Hearthstone streamers that aren't vulgar at times ;) At least any of the pro's.

Reynad is also one of my favorites to watch (so much salt its hilarious). Amaz as well, especially after his IEM Shenzhen win. Kripp is also a very good Arena player to watch, but he usually only streams very early in the morning.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #190 on: July 21, 2014, 08:55:07 PM »
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I'm loving this expansion even more, and it's out starting tomorrow! :D

Reminder to get on in the next month or so to get wing 1 for free. :P

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #191 on: July 22, 2014, 01:38:01 PM »
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http://imgur.com/a/ytdXI# All the golden Naxx cards.

Some thoughts:

Spectral Knight is going to be AMAZING. Tied with Dark Cultist for the best card in the set.

I'm curious to see if Kel'Thuzad is as powerful as he looks.

Loetheb is still amazing.

I read an interesting point about Feugen and Stalaag. If people start running Feugen by himself for the 4/7 body, you can run Stalaag to punish them (notice it the wording does not say it has to be YOUR Feugen/Stalaag that died).

Deathlord is going to be incredible against zoo and rush decks, or could lose games against endgame-heavy decks.

Ancient Watcher, Dancing Swords, Wailing Soul sounds delicious. I fully expect to see crazy decks built around Wailing Soul.

Mad Scientist is stupidly good for 2 mana.

Zombie Chow: great early-game minion for late-game heavy decks, or for Soulpriest combos.

Stoneskin Gargoyle is one of those cards that generally stinks, but you'll occasionally get destroyed by in gimmicky Inner Fire decks.

I hope Unstable Ghoul says "What. We. Do!" in a super small voice. Could be good against rush decks.

Nerub'ar Weblord has potential.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #192 on: July 22, 2014, 06:58:30 PM »
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Anyone else notice the change to Eaglehorn Bow. Face Hunter just got a little worse, though it shouldn't really matter.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #193 on: July 22, 2014, 07:03:49 PM »
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So I loaded up the game, went into Nax, and I'm being facerolled by the first boss. He's cast some Warlock spells, a Mage spell, and a class-less spell that's like Flamestrike on steroids so far and he has the most OP minions ever. A 1 drop 2/3 with Charge and his Hero power summons a 3/1.

Locust Swarm - 7 Mana
Deal 3 damage to all enemy minions and restore 3 health to your Hero.

He played 3 of these. THREE!

EDIT: Finally beat him on my third try. Going for the widow now! Her Hero power is ugh, she sends a 1 dmg bolt randomly at your minions or Hero for each card in your hand.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #194 on: July 22, 2014, 08:05:29 PM »
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So I had a (probably dumb) idea, but I started playing on the Asia servers because of the lag on the NA servers, and thought, what if we had a tournament on the Asia (or EU I suppose) servers since the cards in your collection don't carry over between servers, so everyone would be on somewhat equal footing.

As a side note, if you are ever going to have interest in playing in the other servers, you should do it at some point this week to get the free wing of Naxx.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #195 on: July 23, 2014, 01:34:05 AM »
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Well, unlocked all of my cards with a rush priest deck. These heroic versions on the other hand... I need to stop and think for these ones. They hurt.

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« Reply #196 on: July 23, 2014, 01:58:01 AM »
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Well, unlocked all of my cards with a rush priest deck. These heroic versions on the other hand... I need to stop and think for these ones. They hurt.

There are cheesy strategies to beat all three of them, but I assume you want to solve their puzzles on your own.
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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #197 on: July 23, 2014, 06:14:03 AM »
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herioc Maexxna very annoying.     I've gotten her to two health twice in 5 or so games I just can't seem to find the last two damage.

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #198 on: July 23, 2014, 08:32:41 AM »
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Was able to use my slightly modified Paladin starter to beat both Anub and Widow, had to switch to mage to beat Maexxna. Very annoyed that you can't get gold from adventure mode though....I like to be upset with AI when I lose, not other players...I know, I'm the minority, but I just can't get into Hearthstone even though I had access since this time last year...

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Re: Hearthstone
« Reply #199 on: July 23, 2014, 09:16:17 AM »
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Was able to use my slightly modified Paladin starter to beat both Anub and Widow, had to switch to mage to beat Maexxna. Very annoyed that you can't get gold from adventure mode though....I like to be upset with AI when I lose, not other players...I know, I'm the minority, but I just can't get into Hearthstone even though I had access since this time last year...

If you could get gold from adventure mode it would be way too easy for people to farm it with the cheesy strategies for beating the AI you can do.
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