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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #250 on: March 29, 2017, 04:21:47 PM »
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It's a Peeping John!  :police:
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #251 on: March 29, 2017, 04:33:07 PM »
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Is Mary the same unique character as Woman with a Child?

Yes.

So, Woman with a child is a prophet or prophetess?
Yes, which matters for things like Word of Their Testimony! Thank you, Xonathan. I'm updating our master file.
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« Reply #252 on: March 29, 2017, 04:58:35 PM »
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Awesome! Although I'm surprised he doesn't Band/Exchange with a Revelation Angel.

There might be a Hero who does that...  ::)

#excited.
Also... A JOHN THAT CHERUBIM CAN BAND TO! YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #253 on: March 29, 2017, 05:08:23 PM »
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Updated the card list with all spoilers (I'm pretty sure) up through John, the Revelator!

Also, I revamped how I'm keeping track of new spoilers. Putting them immediately into their number order made it difficult to remember which ones have been spoiled in which order (and how long they should have the * for being "newly spoiled"). There is now an area at the top of the card list that will contain all the "newly spoiled" cards in number order by section (with new sections added at the bottom and old sections cycled off the top). Each section will be either all the spoilers from 1 Land of Redemption article or all individually spoiled cards from 1 day (both Facebook and spoiled here on the boards). I'll keep 3 or 4 sections (depending on how large each section is) in the newly spoiled area and sections that cycle out will then be put in the full card list by number order.

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #254 on: March 29, 2017, 05:12:01 PM »
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In regards to kings of the earth I'm assuming the identifier makes him that brigade only and no longer multi and gains the chosen nationality? It's just vaguely written on the identifier. And also the identifier is not a convert ability correct?

You are correct in your assumption - when put in play the controller of Kings of the Earth will choose a single brigade and a nationality. Once in play he is only that one brigade and gains that nationality. At face value in deck, discard pile or reserve he can be targeted as a multi-brigade card though because of his icon box.

We've wrestled with how to many this card function the way we want and make it clear. We looked at options to have "no" brigade in the icon box but didn't find a good solution. Any recommendations that the community has to make this function as intended and be clearly understood will be seriously considered.
I'm not sure if it's too long but would the phrasing
"Enters play with a single brigade and nationality of choice" work?
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #255 on: March 29, 2017, 07:29:56 PM »
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Merchants o' the Earth... recurring Besieging the City... oh no... :P

Could it by any chance be made to only get N.T. Enhancements? Or was somebody determined to make a T2 deck to abuse BtC even more?
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« Reply #256 on: March 29, 2017, 08:12:06 PM »
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Merchants o' the Earth... recurring Besieging the City... oh no... :P

Could it by any chance be made to only get N.T. Enhancements? Or was somebody determined to make a T2 deck to abuse BtC even more?

that would be me  :thumbup:

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #257 on: March 29, 2017, 10:12:21 PM »
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Merchants o' the Earth... recurring Besieging the City... oh no... :P

Could it by any chance be made to only get N.T. Enhancements? Or was somebody determined to make a T2 deck to abuse BtC even more?

that would be me  :thumbup:
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #258 on: March 30, 2017, 02:11:27 AM »
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Now that we'll get the Reserve as another area will there also be something like Nazareth (Di) or Hezekiah's Signet Ring (Ki) which will cover deck, DC pile and reserve?

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #259 on: March 30, 2017, 02:14:43 AM »
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Now that we'll get the Reserve as another area will there also be something like Nazareth (Di) or Hezekiah's Signet Ring (Ki) which will cover deck, DC pile and reserve?

We prefer that players are allowed to use their cards. Overall it makes the game funner for everyone. Instead of making hard counters like Naz and HSR we choose to do "soft" counters like Music Leader, Dull Lost Soul and Golden Cherubim. These allow players to still play their cards but at a cost. It's up to the player as to whether or not they feel like that cost is worth it.
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #260 on: March 30, 2017, 02:20:28 AM »
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We prefer that players are allowed to use their cards. Overall it makes the game funner for everyone. Instead of making hard counters like Naz and HSR we choose to do "soft" counters like Music Leader, Dull Lost Soul and Golden Cherubim. These allow players to still play their cards but at a cost. It's up to the player as to whether or not they feel like that cost is worth it.

This sounds reasonable (even though I sometimes like to hinder all this exhaustive digging and searching [and drawing]  ;D - not only to delay opponents tactics/strategies but also since the shuffling and drawing part make quite some fun for me regarding Redemption; the tension to see what are your next options coming from the top of your deck). Does this mean there will be some soft counter for the new area or for general searching/reveal,look+take into hand resp. a soft counter which is triggered by searching any area?
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #261 on: March 30, 2017, 08:20:55 AM »
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(sorry if these have been answered already) So can Behemoth change between good and evil, since it doesn't have an identifier saying it enters play and stay a certain alignment?  Also, is there a official definition of resurrect?

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #262 on: March 30, 2017, 08:28:11 AM »
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(sorry if these have been answered already) So can Behemoth change between good and evil, since it doesn't have an identifier saying it enters play and stay a certain alignment?  Also, is there a official definition of resurrect?

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #263 on: March 30, 2017, 10:07:08 AM »
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Is there a gold version of John in this set?
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #264 on: March 30, 2017, 10:31:34 AM »
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(sorry if these have been answered already) So can Behemoth change between good and evil, since it doesn't have an identifier saying it enters play and stay a certain alignment?  Also, is there a official definition of resurrect?

Resurrect is the new wording of "Search Discard Pile for ____ and put it in play" Not sure 100% on the put them in play, but that is basically the idea.
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #265 on: March 30, 2017, 10:42:41 AM »
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John the Apocalyptist can use John enhancements and makes them CBN which would allow him to use a lot of the NT gold theme. As for getting a gold version having three of one hero in one set sounds kind of insane to think of.

Ah that's right; I forgot about that ability; hence there being no reason to make a gold version.

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #266 on: March 30, 2017, 11:20:23 AM »
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I am fairly certain Behemoth can enter play as an evil character or an enhancement. I don't think it changes while in play. If it is in deck or discard pile I think it still can be targeted as both but if used as an enhancement it goes to the discard pile. As an evil character unless discarded it will remain as an evil character.

This is correct. Once Behemoth enters play, he becomes one or the other. If he is returned to hand, deck or discard, then he is both and can be targeted as both.
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #267 on: March 30, 2017, 11:26:47 AM »
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John the Apocalyptist can use John enhancements and makes them CBN which would allow him to use a lot of the NT gold theme. As for getting a gold version having three of one hero in one set sounds kind of insane to think of.

The only way I could say they could make 3 is the strange doctrine running around that John the Apostle, John (who wrote 1-3 John) and John who wrote Revelation are different people. (But the evidence for such is really questionable and there is a LOT more evidence for them all being the same then different people)
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« Reply #268 on: March 30, 2017, 11:29:15 AM »
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Excited for more spoilers. ;D These cards are so great already!
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« Reply #269 on: March 30, 2017, 11:31:51 AM »
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I am fairly certain Behemoth can enter play as an evil character or an enhancement. I don't think it changes while in play. If it is in deck or discard pile I think it still can be targeted as both but if used as an enhancement it goes to the discard pile. As an evil character unless discarded it will remain as an evil character.

This is correct. Once Behemoth enters play, he becomes one or the other. If he is returned to hand, deck or discard, then he is both and can be targeted as both.

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #270 on: March 30, 2017, 01:18:06 PM »
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Ok, seems I have to ask my question again: Will there be some soft counter for the new area or for general searching/reveal,look+take into hand resp. a soft counter which is triggered by searching any area?

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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #271 on: March 30, 2017, 01:20:33 PM »
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Ok, seems I have to ask my question again: Will there be some soft counter for the new area or for general searching/reveal,look+take into hand resp. a soft counter which is triggered by searching any area?
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #272 on: March 30, 2017, 01:36:38 PM »
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Isaac, how many times have I told you to keep these things quiet? What is this the third? Seal your lips... :maul:


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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #273 on: March 30, 2017, 01:38:49 PM »
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Isaac, I feel like this is the third time I've told you, your lips better be sealed... :maul:

I'll delete it ;D
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Re: Revelation of John - Set List and Information
« Reply #274 on: March 30, 2017, 01:44:08 PM »
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Why is behemoth a brontosaurus?  >:(  :'(

 


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