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Health department doesn't do an investigation then shut you down, they shut you down then investigate. And even if they did wait until after Nats to do the investigation the tournament hosts and cactus could still get fined after the fact.
i think you're underestimating it. have you seen randall's suite? that's 10 guys and they can destroy that place in 2 days. Now multiply that out to 150+ people, take away their showers, and consider that they are all sharing a limited number of bathrooms and it could get ugly fast.
Quote from: YourMathTeacher on February 12, 2012, 03:55:29 PMThe two main supporters for showers in the church are also from NY. Besides, your showers seem to be taken care of with other peoples' tears, so you have nothing to worry about.This current debate seems to be more about NY arrogance than TN showers. Just because the NY group is the most prevalent on the Message Boards lately does not mean they deserve Nats. The Tournament Host Guide says that Cactus tries to spread the location of Nats throughout the country. A second Nats in the Northeast in three years does not meet that criteria.I'm not from New York, so if you're referring to me, please fact-check before making assumptions. TN is only three hours extra from me than Rochester is, and I have no problem with that (either one is a huge improvement over the one-way 24 hour drive MN was last year). Make no mistake, I'm completely and totally pulling for a Knoxville Nats this year, since I agree with everyone else that they deserve it the most, and as I mentioned, there's a small amount of extra travel time for me involved. Regardless of this "New York arrogance" you're talking about, the issue of showers is a big one. The fact of the matter is Rochester is an attractive location, and when it comes down to it, either location would have a large amount of people, and if one location can offer lodging without the need for hotels to shower and one can't, logistically, the location that can offer lodging without need for hotels should win. As you noted, however, logistics aren't the only issue, or MN would win every time; semantics are important as well.Quote from: YourMathTeacher on February 12, 2012, 03:55:29 PMNats should be about keeping the game alive all across the country, not just in NY and MN. If Nats is never anywhere near entire regions of the country, then Redemption will systematically die in those regions.Which of course, explains why Florida and California doesn't have any active playgroups.
The two main supporters for showers in the church are also from NY. Besides, your showers seem to be taken care of with other peoples' tears, so you have nothing to worry about.This current debate seems to be more about NY arrogance than TN showers. Just because the NY group is the most prevalent on the Message Boards lately does not mean they deserve Nats. The Tournament Host Guide says that Cactus tries to spread the location of Nats throughout the country. A second Nats in the Northeast in three years does not meet that criteria.
Nats should be about keeping the game alive all across the country, not just in NY and MN. If Nats is never anywhere near entire regions of the country, then Redemption will systematically die in those regions.
I think the last part was sarcastic, we're all aware that Florida least has a fairly large play group, a couple of them infact. He was disputing YMT saying that if a region doesn't get a Nats the play groups will die by sarcastically pointing out that those states have active playgroups despite not having had nats in their region in awhile
Quote from: lp670sv on February 13, 2012, 12:27:37 AMI think the last part was sarcastic, we're all aware that Florida least has a fairly large play group, a couple of them infact. He was disputing YMT saying that if a region doesn't get a Nats the play groups will die by sarcastically pointing out that those states have active playgroups despite not having had nats in their region in awhileWell it was in bad taste and ill-timed.
If I were going to Nats and TN was not picked due to the showers, I wouldn't shower for 4 days prior as some sort of "strike" or "protest." (and I'd go the next 4 days without showering as well
Quote from: Lawman on February 13, 2012, 12:56:28 AMIf I were going to Nats and TN was not picked due to the showers, I wouldn't shower for 4 days prior as some sort of "strike" or "protest." (and I'd go the next 4 days without showering as well In addition, support your local Salvation Army by buying some often-used, thread-bare clothes complete with fingertip-less gloves for the perfect ensemble. As for Nats in Rochester, PLEASE wait a couple more years. I just found out my daughter has decided to attend RIT in Rochester. In fact, I vote Nats in Rochester from 2013-2016.
Quote from: STAMP on February 13, 2012, 11:39:04 AMQuote from: Lawman on February 13, 2012, 12:56:28 AMIf I were going to Nats and TN was not picked due to the showers, I wouldn't shower for 4 days prior as some sort of "strike" or "protest." (and I'd go the next 4 days without showering as well In addition, support your local Salvation Army by buying some often-used, thread-bare clothes complete with fingertip-less gloves for the perfect ensemble. As for Nats in Rochester, PLEASE wait a couple more years. I just found out my daughter has decided to attend RIT in Rochester. In fact, I vote Nats in Rochester from 2013-2016. Will you allow her to attend knowing that this will put her on the same campus as I for 3 years?
Quote from: lp670sv on February 13, 2012, 11:40:43 AMQuote from: STAMP on February 13, 2012, 11:39:04 AMQuote from: Lawman on February 13, 2012, 12:56:28 AMIf I were going to Nats and TN was not picked due to the showers, I wouldn't shower for 4 days prior as some sort of "strike" or "protest." (and I'd go the next 4 days without showering as well In addition, support your local Salvation Army by buying some often-used, thread-bare clothes complete with fingertip-less gloves for the perfect ensemble. As for Nats in Rochester, PLEASE wait a couple more years. I just found out my daughter has decided to attend RIT in Rochester. In fact, I vote Nats in Rochester from 2013-2016. Will you allow her to attend knowing that this will put her on the same campus as I for 3 years? Absolutely! I already told you I was looking forward to meeting you one day. Do you know ASL? She will primarily be hanging out with the deaf and hard-of-hearing.
I am not sure why all this shower talk is going on for TN...Chris and I are taking care of everything.
Quote from: Mr.Hiatus on February 13, 2012, 11:36:21 AMI am not sure why all this shower talk is going on for TN...Chris and I are taking care of everything.Glad this was brought up by a first hand source. I fully trust that if TN is the location, that there will be suitable accommodations for all.
Someone that I have kept updated about Nats location had a question for me that I thought I would pass along....."Why is there a big argument about showers? Everyone knows CCG players don't shower at tournaments. So what do CCG players need showers for?" * deep breath *
As for Nats in Rochester, PLEASE wait a couple more years. I just found out my daughter has decided to attend RIT in Rochester. In fact, I vote Nats in Rochester from 2013-2016.
Quote from: STAMP on February 13, 2012, 11:39:04 AMAs for Nats in Rochester, PLEASE wait a couple more years. I just found out my daughter has decided to attend RIT in Rochester. In fact, I vote Nats in Rochester from 2013-2016. We should be ready to take it in 2014.Okay, okay, I'll stop with the Rochester jokes...
