Author Topic: yet anoher leave of absence (Read 10691 times)

christiangamer25 · « **on:** September 06, 2011, 11:38:25 PM »

i have decided once again to pause playing this game cause right now i feel like it has devolved into a 2 deck game genesis or samuel neither of which appeal to me in anyway and defense is now a complete joke why even create evil cards anymore there 100 percent pointless. anyway im sorry but i can't handle this anymore right now even though i don't know why im writing this when its just gonna be locked and no one will truly care anyway i never have and never will matter to this community as a decent player. i question if i even matter as a person sometimes. but none the less im trying to be respectful im just in too much pain to continue would be nice if someone actually cared for me as a player besides rlk but that will never happen so for now goodbye and we'll see if i ever bother to return.

Master KChief · « **Reply #1 on:** September 06, 2011, 11:47:11 PM »

you need to stop take a step back and stop taking this game so seriously. its a GAME. pretty unimportant when it comes to the grand scheme of pretty much everything in life.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #2 on:** September 06, 2011, 11:50:59 PM »

If you want to win, play the best decks. If you want to have fun, do whatever the heck you want. If you want to win and not have the best deck, then you'll be frustrated.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #3 on:** September 07, 2011, 12:04:45 AM »

lol well i see who missed the point any deck should be able to win at any time top deck structure is not good
balance is
period

SomeKittens · « **Reply #4 on:** September 07, 2011, 12:07:16 AM »

Quote from: christiangamer25 on September 07, 2011, 12:04:45 AM

lol well i see who missed the point any deck should be able to win at any time top deck structure is not good
balance is
period

So my deck of 0/2 bucklers should be able to compete with the latest 2011 themes?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #5 on:** September 07, 2011, 12:23:18 AM »

Weren't you like 4th on ROOT this month?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #6 on:** September 07, 2011, 01:53:19 AM »

Quote from: christiangamer25 on September 06, 2011, 11:38:25 PM

i question if i even matter as a person sometimes. but none the less im trying to be respectful im just in too much pain to continue would be nice if someone actually cared for me as a player but that will never happen so for now goodbye and we'll see if i ever bother to return.

I know I'm discussing this over facebook with you right now, but I'm bringing this to the forefront for other members. As much as people dislike your complaints about Redemption (in general, all complaints get -1'd), nobody thinks you don't matter. I'm sure of it. So, to all the other members, I think CG25 would appreciate it if you showed it.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #7 on:** September 07, 2011, 04:36:19 AM »

Dont fret my friend, this too shall pass. The reason everyone's playing the same cards right now is because they are new. It's hard to take a loss, especially when you work so hard at trying to win. I wish I could be more encouraging. Your friend from Georgia,
Clift Crysel

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #8 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:42:19 AM »

I haven't played with the new cards yet just against them, but if those are the two top decks, then I would just make a deck that goes to stop each one of those. There has to be something that gives both of those problems.

But if the game is causing you more problems than bringing you joy, then a break is a great thing.

stefferweffer · « **Reply #9 on:** September 07, 2011, 09:11:06 AM »

Quote from: christiangamer25 on September 07, 2011, 12:04:45 AM

lol well i see who missed the point any deck should be able to win at any time top deck structure is not good
balance is
period

OK, before I respond to this, know that you have friends here. You do have immense value, to us and to God. Jesus died for you! So if that doesn't make your value clear I don't know what will.

Now I need to comment on your statement here. If I understand your grammar correctly, you are under the impression that any deck should be able to win? Where is that written, either in any CCG or in life, period? Surely you don't expect a deck with one card from every brigade in the game to work as well as single-color, or that cards that don't have special abilities will win as much as cards that do. And this is coming from someone (myself) who has ranted for a LONG time about Speed, Dominants, Garden Tomb, Cannot be Negated, etc. And I also have come close to quitting over these issues.

But then I questioned why WINNING was so important to me. I started to make decks that don't have cards like New Jerusalem or Falling Away or Grapes of Wrath or Harvest Time, and I started to have fun again. I started to make fun decks like "Heroless" or "50 card Abom" or "Deck Destroy" (Discard deck), or "Super Zeb/Servant" or "Super Banding" (Offense and Defense) or "No Souls for You!" or "Self-Capture". (And Yes, competitive players will tell you that your decks are too big and that they "stink".) I have 18 real life decks now, so I've got immense variety at any given time. And now the game is FUN again, whether I win or lose. The neatest thing about it is that I have shown our other good local players just how much they rely on over-powered themes or cards, and that without those cards they are rather helpless. So you can become the pace-setter and example to your fellow players for them to focus more on fun and less on winning as well.

Are you really unable to have fun playing a game with fellow Christians just because you don't win? And if I understand what others said about your RTS games correctly, you DO win, but apparently just not enough for your liking. Also, what is with this great desire to be more repsected/appreciated "as a player"? You use that phrase twice in your OP. Has your goal become to be respected as one the top Redemption players? What about being respected "as a PERSON"? If this community in any way has fostered a desire within you to become the best PLAYER you can be, as opposed to the best CHRISTIAN you can be, then I apologize on behalf of all of us.

So my advice to you may be different from others. If you really can't enjoy the game without winning, then you SHOULD leave the game. Why invest your time and money into something that you find so painful? Moreover, it sounds like you might be allowing the game to foster some other problems. Questioning your self-worth because of Redemption? It's not worth that. Go and do something wholesome, preferably with other Christians, that brings you joy, and then come back to Redemption later for the FUN of it - not just to win.

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #10 on:** September 07, 2011, 11:01:52 AM »

There is a guy in our playgroup that had been getting increasingly frustrated with losing to the point where he began to rage quit (he actually rage won once which was kinda funny because he thought he lost but didn't...anyway). We talked about it and he felt that no matter what he did, he was not able to win and he put such a high value on winning that it was eating him up from the inside out. He decided that from that point, his goal would not be to take things too seriously and just enjoy playing the game with friends, rather than focusing on bashing our skulls in Christian love. He is way more fun to play with now and he is actually winning now that he is not so focused on winning. I am not saying that will work for you, but it is certainly worth a shot. If you don't feel you can separate your competitive nature from the game of Redemption, then by all means; take a break. Praying for you and your decision...

SomeKittens · « **Reply #11 on:** September 07, 2011, 11:12:00 AM »

Quote from: uthminister [BR] on September 07, 2011, 11:01:52 AM

and he is actually winning now that he is not so focused on winning.

One of life's greatest ironies. This has happened to me several times.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #12 on:** September 07, 2011, 12:23:03 PM »

I don't mean to be a raincloud, but perhaps this break should be permanent. You've taken a step back quite a few times, and it's not working. Inevitably, you just get rage again when you come back. Do I want you to stop playing permanently? No, unless it's the best option available to you personally.

Master KChief · « **Reply #13 on:** September 07, 2011, 12:33:34 PM »

i find taking a break and playing a different ccg for awhile to be both refreshing and help get a different perspective on things. redemption will feel new again when you come back.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #14 on:** September 07, 2011, 04:10:25 PM »

Whatever you do, don't take up poker. It depends too much on luck, has only one viable deck, and your opening draw can ruin your whole game. Oh, and Kings are OP.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #15 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:14:07 PM »

lol kittens that was actually funny kudos

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #16 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:22:05 PM »

yeah i don't know i understand what people are saying but at the same time i still get the impression that all that matters in this community is being a top player other wise your an outcast that nobody pays attention to and quite frankly i don't wanna be shunned and blocked out anymore. i'd like to feel like im actually an integral part of something but i don't and as far as just following and also playing the genesis or samuel whatever is just something i find personally offensive no i don't intend that huge splah or no sa decks can win but i think a well thought out strategy like prophets etc should still be even with genesis etc but that however is not the case as to where the fault lies i have my thoughts. I however am not going to point fingers cause that will just upset people and cause more trouble. all i want right now is to be able to play the decks i enjoy which as mention have won vs high competition but i just feel like i'm still lacking something to be on the same lvl of respect as other people in this community and its not just my anger or uber compeititve nature.

lightningninja · « **Reply #17 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:45:41 PM »

Then maybe your problem is with the boards, not Redemption.

And I know I'll be on the minority on this but... I don't think Samuel or Genesis will win, at least not the type of builds that people expect. I could be wrong, but that's what I predict. People will find counters, and include them, and the game will balance.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #18 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:47:10 PM »

doesn't change the fact were being force fed

lightningninja · « **Reply #19 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:49:54 PM »

Quote from: christiangamer25 on September 07, 2011, 08:47:10 PM

doesn't change the fact were being force fed

I don't understand. There are a LOT of viable deck ideas. Not to mention defense. You say it's not needed, but you couldn't be more wrong. Since so many offenses are similar, in your opinion, what is going to make a winner IS the defense. There will be decks that win more than 50% of the time, trust me. They're going to do that by having creative plays, good defenses that can block other Samuel/Joseph offenses in a mirror match and not making mistakes. This game is far from a 2-sided die.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #20 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:54:46 PM »

no theres not everything else was deliberately underpowered and joesph and samuel were made op on purpose to take away our free will in deck choice and force our choice in what we play
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Master KChief · « **Reply #21 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:54:55 PM »

thats what nationals came down to, who had tech in their deck against disciples and who didnt. darius' decree was seen at all top tables. the meta will try to find answers to joseph, samuel, and friends.

lightningninja · « **Reply #22 on:** September 07, 2011, 08:57:43 PM »

Quote from: christiangamer25 on September 07, 2011, 08:54:46 PM

no theres not everything else was deliberately underpowered and joesph and samuel were made op on purpose to take away our free will in deck choice and force our choice in what we play

Ok now I can't tell if you're joking. Bryon is not a communist.

What do you mean underpowered? Do you even realize how good angels have become when paired with green and/or teal? Red/Purple has more draw than almost anything else now, and all sorts of new defenses are now viable. If you just want to vent, that's okay but you're not making sense here.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #23 on:** September 07, 2011, 09:00:11 PM »

compare them directly to genesis and samuel there inferior in speed and power

Master KChief · « **Reply #24 on:** September 07, 2011, 09:01:35 PM »

im pretty sure samuel and joseph were made to help make archetypes that were underpowered more powerful in an attempt to decentralize the meta. problem is joseph was possibly made too powerful and he is in a theme that wasnt exactly truly underpowered, and the best use of samuel is not seen in a judges deck.

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Author Topic: yet anoher leave of absence (Read 10691 times)

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