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"Enoch" Tier - The highest tier reserved for the two (including Elijah) who walked with God and never died.
"Chamber of Angels" Tier - Second highest tier reserved for past, present and future playtesters and artists.
"Hosts of Heaven" Tier - Obviously for hosts.
"Buckler" Tier - Highest earthly level tier reserved for national champions.
"Increasing Numbers" Tier - These are the masses of Redemption faithful.  (It is tiered on a bell curve after all.)
"City of Refuge" Tier - Lowest earthly tier reserved for those that have never had the ability to attend a tournament.

...then you need to sink to the depths of the core of the earth...

"The Gates of Hell" Tier - The members here know who they are and that's good enough for everyone.

...then keep digging until you get to China...

"The Magi" Tier

...then keep going lower (or in this case higher into the Chinese atmosphere, high above their highest firework)...

"Northwest" Tier

...then keep going lower to the moon...

"Andy Kaufman" Tier - This is where Andy and I hang out.

 

I think an objective, automatic system would be good if players opted in rather than just being signed up without their consent. How to create such a system, well...

I'd also say if you did that, it should be able to be applied to non-tournament games. I know there are some players who are quite good, but only play on RTS. Perhaps a separate system for exhibitionists.

Amateurs vs. Professionals maybe? Funny story: At Nationals, my sister was given $1 to play in T2 Multi so we would have 4 tables of four instead of any tables of three. We figured that she might have become the first professional Redemption player, since I've never heard of anyone being paid to play a game of Redemption. I could be wrong though.

I've been payed to not play.

I've been payed to not play.

Alan, the money your mom gave you was so that you COULD play, not so you could skip out and go chase buffalo.

I've been payed to make other people not play. Permanently.

That sounds...sinister...

I've been payed to not play.

Somehow that doesn't surprise me

If there were to be a tier system, I would suggest it work like th chess system, where you go up a certain amount for a win and down for a loss. It would be really cool if it was built into Redemption Live!, but that would probably mean we'd have to wait even longer for it, which is an idea that I don't think many people are fond of.

I don't respect States or even some Regionals. A great example is type 1.5. It works in FL, but until it works somewhere else, I can't take it seriously.

I though you like it, in fact like it so much that your booster draft ranking states otherwise, lol.  I'm kidding, I don't mean anything by it, please take the statement lightly...

is type 1.5 where you can have up to 5 (now 4?) copies of a card, but no deck minimum of 100?

No. Its a 2 card max per card if its legal, only 1 multi-color (3 brigades or more).  Evil & Good cards also have to be equal inorder to be type 2 legal at the same time. If you went 4 copies then it would become a type 2 deck entirely.  Its a hybrid of the two formats.

If there were to be a tier system, I would suggest it work like th chess system, where you go up a certain amount for a win and down for a loss. It would be really cool if it was built into Redemption Live!, but that would probably mean we'd have to wait even longer for it, which is an idea that I don't think many people are fond of.

Here is where the logistical issues come into play...

In chess  your ranking is based on every tournament caliber game you play. Players are not allowed to beg off, because then they could cherry pick which games count toward your ranking, which makes the rankings meaningless. Similarly you either have to include all for-fun games (which makes deck testing problematic) or no for-fun games.

For a while I maintained a list of rankings (Glicko-2) for ROOT, but there was no common score reporting format. To make things worse players name would change ( I lost to Rawrlolsauce! I beat the Sauce.  Alan must stink because I beat him.) meaning there was a manual name matching that needed to take place. The rankings generated are dependent both on who you played and also the precise order in which games were played. And so on and so forth. So whenever I did an update I would have to manually go in and add new results to the overall list before I could generate the scores. Unfortunately for every result posted there were five to ten non-score posts that had to be skimmed and then ignored. Needless to say this process got old pretty quick.

As I posted earlier--help is coming but it may take a while.

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on August 23, 2011, 03:57:05 PM

I've been payed to not play.

Somehow that doesn't surprise me

If there were to be a tier system, I would suggest it work like th chess system, where you go up a certain amount for a win and down for a loss. It would be really cool if it was built into Redemption Live!, but that would probably mean we'd have to wait even longer for it, which is an idea that I don't think many people are fond of.

I think the results could be skewed somewhat as MJB said. Another problem would be that you don't lose many points for a loss but get a lot for a win. (I was #9 on chess boards with about 15 wins and 50+ losses.)