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Rule breakers
« on: July 31, 2011, 01:42:38 AM »
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8. There is to be no formation of groups or other clubs that will in any way exclude other members on this board.

This sure sounds a lot like Open Discussion. Let's look at the facts:

1. There is a rule against exclusion of members.
2. There is an exclusive board based on an arbitrarily set number.
3. A board could be construed as a club.

If this rule is not being followed, can I break this rule?

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 01:45:10 AM »
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Personally, I think the rules should be re-written anyway. The SQF didn't get shut down, and that excluded any members who wouldn't say the oath. The current rules are really really old.

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 01:50:44 AM »
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Personally, I think the rules should be re-written anyway. The SQF didn't get shut down, and that excluded any members who wouldn't say the oath.

This is another valid point. Especially since the following rules are consistantly broken:

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Every post by some members.

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Every non-Ruling Questions Board posts some members make.

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8. There is to be no formation of groups or other clubs that will in any way exclude other members on this board.

SQF/Open Discussion

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So what rules can I break without concern?

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 01:53:33 AM »
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well there goes awesome looking playmats. guess i'll stick with my mtg and ygo mats.
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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 01:54:53 AM »
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well there goes awesome looking playmats. guess i'll stick with my mtg and ygo mats.

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 02:49:15 AM »
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Dear admins,

I'm excluded from the Playtesters club. I'm denied access to their forums, which sounds like exclusion to me. Please fix this immediately.

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 09:29:01 AM »
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The rules need a MAJOR rewrite IMO.
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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 01:08:36 PM »
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I must ask... what is your point in posting this?

You're one of the more frequent posters in Open Discussion, and now you want it gone or something?

what is this i dont even

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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 01:33:11 PM »
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You're one of the more frequent posters in Open Discussion, and now you want it gone or something?
I don't think he wants Open Discussion gone. I think he wants the rule gone.

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 01:36:22 PM »
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either he wants the rules to be changed. or has given mods a reason to become stricter and start cracking down on everything he has detailed.
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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 01:39:03 PM »
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Dear admins,

I'm excluded from the Playtesters club. I'm denied access to their forums, which sounds like exclusion to me. Please fix this immediately.

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Comprende! Thank you for your support Comrade Saucy Pants!

The rules need a MAJOR rewrite IMO.

The first thing I would suggest is that we legislate the requirement for proper grammar.

I must ask... what is your point in posting this?

You're one of the more frequent posters in Open Discussion, and now you want it gone or something?

what is this i dont even

I never said I wanted anything gone. I just want the elitism of the boards to go away if it is actually a rule. If it isn't a rule, I want to know why I have to listen to any other rule. Why can't I link to other boards for recruitment purposes, for example? I am in a group, so why can't I break that other rule?

Since the main culprit seems to be the Open Discussion board, I say we just delete that and be all good. I'm "old enough" but I don't go there any more for the aforementioned reasons. No one ever changes their mind anyway. I hear the same opinions over and over and over and.......

Good call, bro. Solve elitism with elitism. Brilliant!*

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either he wants the rules to be changed. or has given mods a reason to become stricter and start cracking down on everything he has detailed.

My bad, bro. Didn't know the internet was a country club.
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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 01:45:26 PM »
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This thread is fantastic.

This post is not spam.

I'm not doing this to prove a point.

Carry on.

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 01:46:46 PM »
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my point is its probably best to not shed light on things that are happening that shouldnt be happening if you want it to continue happening...if open discussion is gone tomorrow, well, everyone now knows where to look.
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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 01:49:26 PM »
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This thread is fantastic.

It's because the thread starter is in the top percentage of thread starters.

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This post is not spam.

You are implying Spam is bad and wrong, which at this point in the thread, is a very dicey hypothesis to be working under.

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I'm not doing this to prove a point.

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my point is its probably best to not shed light on things that are happening that shouldnt be happening if you want it to continue happening...if open discussion is gone tomorrow, well, everyone now knows where to look.

My bad, broski. Next time I see that kid on the street, I won't say anything, because I want get rich through the system of business magnates raping the poor working folk, and helping that hungry kid would detract from that goal.

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 01:55:16 PM »
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thats the point. if you're one of those rich 'business magnates' that realizes helping that poor little kid on the streets will detract from your goal, why would you help him? pretty much proved my point. through sarcasm. wow, sarcasm. thats original!
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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2011, 01:59:38 PM »
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thats the point. if you're one of those rich 'business magnates' that realizes helping that poor little kid on the streets will detract from your goal, why would you help him? pretty much proved my point. through sarcasm. thats so...original.

Chillax, dude. I didn't prove your point. I made you admit that helping poor kids is bad if you want to be rich. Who looks cool now? Not the child abuser, that's for sure.

But, seriously, you wouldn't help a kid if it would detract from your career? This calls for a Stephen Colbert picture:


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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2011, 02:15:28 PM »
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But, seriously, you wouldn't help a kid if it would detract from your career?
I have no obligation to answer this because it is an impossible scenario for two reasons:
1.) When is the last time you saw a needy kid in the rich part of New York?
2.) Helping the kid would be good for my career. Just let me call up a couple news agencies, my PR guy said this stuff is gold.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2011, 02:18:02 PM »
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I have no obligation to answer this because it is an impossible scenario for two reasons:
1.) When is the last time you saw a needy kid in the rich part of New York?
2.) Helping the kid would be good for my career. Just let me call up a couple news agencies, my PR guy said this stuff is gold.

1. Good point. I live in LA though. And by LA, I mean Beverly Hills. And only Beverly Hills.

2. My PR guy told me that I should only help little girls. Little boys grow up into gang members, so if they die, no one cares. Little girls grow up into women, and everyone likes women these days.

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2011, 02:26:09 PM »
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everyone likes women these days.
I live in LA though
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2011, 02:28:44 PM »
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You're nearing a fine line. Don't forget you're just a short drive from San Francisco. You don't want to make them mad while they're still of use.

Being as I am a utilitarian*, that's a very compelling argument.

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2011, 02:29:39 PM »
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You two are extremely bored aren't you?
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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2011, 02:30:46 PM »
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You two are extremely bored aren't you?

I think this post breaks rule number 4. Considering you are a mod, can I take that as a passive condoning of the breaking of rule number 4 without consequence?

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Re: Rule breakers
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2011, 02:33:00 PM »
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I have to disagree - If I said "You two are both lazy lay-abouts, good for nothing" (Clearly what you read in my innocent question) Then I would agree with you, however, you are choosing to interpret a question posed to you as an insult, which frankly, is insulting to me.
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 02:35:44 PM »
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Also known as likely to cause a flame war on CGD message boards.
I wouldn't worry about that. I have some really good topics in mind that can cause a bigger flame war, which will divert the attention of the first one. Similar to how the government kills celebrities when they want to commit war crimes, so the major news stations ignore the latter.

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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 02:37:05 PM »
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I have to disagree - If I said "You two are both lazy lay-abouts, good for nothing" (Clearly what you read in my innocent question) Then I would agree with you, however, you are choosing to interpret a question posed to you as an insult, which frankly, is insulting to me.

Based upon this suggestion that interpretation of the reading is paramount to the meaning of the post, I would have to suggest that virtually every post breaks rule number 4. That being said, I must therefore conclude that rule 4 is clearly allowed to be repeated broken without consequence.

Since rule 4 is no longer valid, RDT, you are the biggest noob I have ever met. Who plays a Disciples Type 2 deck without a Fishing Boat? Only you would.

Also known as likely to cause a flame war on CGD message boards.
I wouldn't worry about that. I have some really good topics in mind that can cause a bigger flame war, which will divert the attention of the first one. Similar to how the government kills celebrities when they want to commit war crimes, so the major news stations ignore the latter.

I heard that they also reprogram famous convicted felons (except Lindsay Lohan) so that the redemption stories can overcome the stories of the dead celebrities.

 


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