Author Topic: Benedictus.dek (Read 5060 times)

RTSmaniac · « **on:** April 04, 2011, 02:31:58 AM »

I actually need some way to add benedictus to the deck...

Syrian Victory!
Cards in deck: 105
Lost Souls: 14
   Lost Soul (Beggar)
   Lost Soul (Beggar)
   Lost Soul (deck discard)
   Lost Soul (deck discard)
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (site remove)
   Lost Soul (site remove)

Lamb Dominants: 2
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Fortresses: 4
   High Places
   High Places
   House of Rimmon
   Zerubbabel's Temple

Multi-Color Sites: 2
   The Ends of the Earth
   The Ends of the Earth

White Sites: 2
   Golgotha
   Golgotha

Artifacts: 2
   Holy of Holies
   Lampstand of the Sanctuary

White Covenant Cards: 3
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Captured Ark (Crimson)
   Captured Ark (Crimson)

Red Covenant Cards: 3
   I am Creator
   I am Creator
   I am Creator

Blue Covenant Cards: 2
   I am Holy
   I am Holy

Multi-Color Heroes: 1
   Joiada, Son of Eliashib (Teal)

Blue Heroes: 5
   Claudia
   Claudia
   Claudia
   Claudia
   Claudia

Purple Heroes: 5
   Ethiopian Treasurer
   Ethiopian Treasurer
   Ethiopian Treasurer
   Ethiopian Treasurer
   Ethiopian Treasurer

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 4
   Passover & Unleavened Bread
   Pentecost
   Philosophy
   The Sabbath

Blue Hero Enhancements: 10
   Abraham's Descendant
   Abraham's Descendant
   Abraham's Descendant
   Book of Hozai
   Book of Hozai
   Book of Hozai
   Book of Hozai
   Book of Hozai
   Cup of Wrath
   Cup of Wrath

Purple Hero Enhancements: 11
   Authority of Christ
   Great Faith
   Great Faith
   Great Faith
   Great Faith
   Great Faith
   Reach of Desperation
   Reach of Desperation
   Reach of Desperation
   Reach of Desperation
   Reach of Desperation

Orange Evil Characters: 2
   Spirit of Temptation
   Spirit of Temptation

Pale Green Evil Characters: 5
   Messenger of Satan
   Messenger of Satan
   Messenger of Satan
   Messenger of Satan
   Messenger of Satan

Gray Evil Characters: 9
   King Ben-Hadad I
   King Cushan-Rishathaim
   King Hazael
   King Menahem
   Pontius Pilate
   Syrian Archer
   Syrian Archer
   Syrian Archer
   Syrian Archer

Orange Evil Enhancements: 2
   Destructive Sin (Orange)
   Destructive Sin (Orange)

Pale Green Evil Enhancements: 8
   Sin in the Camp
   Sin in the Camp
   Sin in the Camp
   Words of Discouragement
   Words of Discouragement
   Words of Discouragement
   Words of Discouragement
   Words of Discouragement

Gray Evil Enhancements: 9
   Fearfulness
   Fearfulness
   Fearfulness
   Fearfulness
   Fearfulness
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses
   Namaan's Chariot and Horses

I can almost add Denarius to the deck which I want to add.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2011, 02:39:50 AM »

If your the kind of person that likes to make players play by your rules then this is the deck for you. Enjoy!

Carl deuty · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2011, 06:59:03 AM »

Have you played this deck against anyone? How does your offense fair?

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2011, 08:43:51 AM »

Crud.

I heard second hand about the existence of this deck (just that you had a killer T2 hand control deck) and was trying to design my own. Now that I have seen the deck list building one for competition along the same lines would be cheating.

Maybe next time you should add a spoiler alert.

This is a seriously nice job, sirrah.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2011, 10:38:05 AM »

Yea, figured Id post it for everyone. Maybe get some advice on it and throw some people off for upcoming tournies. If some of you out there would like to test this deck out and post some results that would be great. Maybe we can ghet Fearfulness errata'ed next

BTW- still needs benedictus and a way to recur it.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2011, 10:51:51 AM »

So- lets see

ET -greatfaith -benedictus
Joiada, Son of Eliashib in territory
benedictus(til end of turn) -abe kid -rinse and repeat

Quote from: Carl deuty on April 04, 2011, 06:59:03 AM

Have you played this deck against anyone? How does your offense fair?

You like Carl?

STAMP · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2011, 01:33:10 PM »

Too bad Book of Nathan doesn't also search for a card based on prophecy.

In fact, a reprint in green with that added ability would make prophets viable again.

Carl deuty · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2011, 05:40:42 PM »

You really like abe's kid don't you?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2011, 05:59:28 PM »

Quote from: Carl deuty on April 04, 2011, 05:40:42 PM

You really like abe's kid don't you?

Most T2 players do. I have seen several Disciple decks that include both Thomas and Bartholomew from Apostles just so they can use Abe's Descendant.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2011, 06:06:05 PM »

I really think you need to consider adding Don, becasue if they have a nazereth your captured arks are useless. Nazereth plus+ DD will really cripple the offense. ~~Also why don't you have the FTBN soul? If they have pigs that would really hurt you.~~. You want to use hand control souls.. you could always consider I am salvation, but I am not sure it is worth it.

Maybe Casting Lots would be a good solution to artifact problems. Hand discard or kill a face down artifact. Don't know wha you would take out though.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #10 on:** April 04, 2011, 11:15:53 PM »

Quote from: TheHobbit13 on April 04, 2011, 06:06:05 PM

I really think you need to consider adding Don, becasue if they have a nazereth your captured arks are useless. Nazereth plus+ DD will really cripple the offense. ~~Also why don't you have the FTBN soul? If they have pigs that would really hurt you.~~. You want to use hand control souls.. you could always consider I am salvation, but I am not sure it is worth it.

Maybe Casting Lots would be a good solution to artifact problems. Hand discard or kill a face down artifact. Don't know wha you would take out though.

I have considered all of these and agree 100%

Mr.Hiatus · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2011, 12:43:47 AM »

He knows he's gotta hurt artifacts me and Clift went over this, it's just a matter of what to take out for it. What really kills him is the non-draw lost soul. I Am Salvation for one I Am Creator might have to go in. And to answer your question of has he tried the deck out and does it work. Yes.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #12 on:** April 05, 2011, 01:49:16 AM »

Got Guardian with it tonight. Woot!

The Guardian · « **Reply #13 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:10:11 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on April 05, 2011, 01:49:16 AM

Got Guardian with it tonight. Woot!

Indeed...though the game was essentially decided when he drew his House of Rimmon before I drew my evil protect Fort, (and at that point, we were drawing/searching at the same rate) which allowed him to drop an AoC and wipe out my defense without wiping out his. I honestly don't think he breaks through if I had drawn my protect Fort.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #14 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:40:39 AM »

nope. if i have to, i will just shove them at you 1 claudia, 1 et...at a time. My defense contains King Hazael which can hit most OT Forts so all OT protect forts in play, but I have only 1 in deck (should I add more?) and he works when converted i think...man looking at this, i can see what he's swinging down and destroying them over and over i might add...He's yelling ARTIFACTS!!!. The more I look at this guy the more i like him. He's one of the reasons why I wanted to call this deck- SYRIAN VICTORY! I need a grail in this deck just to convert this guy and what does he bring with him into the hearts of all men? Fearfulness. This is the new Sin in the Camp with the help of Abe's Kid and Gogo. Fearfulness is actually restricting the type of targets opponent has to choose from to place under deck and with only one SitC allowed in a territory now- i wonder why I didnt add this tech to the deck sooner.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #15 on:** April 05, 2011, 08:22:59 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on April 05, 2011, 02:40:39 AM

My defense contains King Hazael which can hit most OT Forts so all OT protect forts in play, but I have only 1 in deck (should I add more?) and he works when converted i think...

Not so sure about that. The requirement to discard a gray enhancement makes that an evil-only ability, doesn't it?

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Fearfulness is actually restricting the type of targets opponent has to choose from to place under deck

It is even better than that!!!! It allows *you* to choose what gets placed under the deck!!!!

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and with only one SitC allowed in a territory now- i wonder why I didnt add this tech to the deck sooner.

Probably just getting old.

Syrians! Rrrrraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!

Gabe · « **Reply #16 on:** April 05, 2011, 08:50:04 AM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on April 05, 2011, 08:22:59 AM

Quote from: RTSmaniac on April 05, 2011, 02:40:39 AM
My defense contains King Hazael which can hit most OT Forts so all OT protect forts in play, but I have only 1 in deck (should I add more?) and he works when converted i think...
Not so sure about that. The requirement to discard a gray enhancement makes that an evil-only ability, doesn't it?

You're getting stuck in the "old way", Matt.

A few years ago, when I was still a young whipper snapper at Redemption, they changed the rules for conversion. If a Hero becomes evil, the abilities no longer convert - at all. Ever.

Evil Characters convert as long as the ability does not directly harm a Hero.

Since the discard of a gray evil enhancement doesn't harm a Hero, I don't see why King Hazael wouldn't be awesome if converted. This makes me want to go build a purple royalty deck with TToD!

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 05, 2011, 09:02:48 AM »

Sorry, forgot a bit of deck advice above...

Since you have so much banding running around on the defensive side of the game, you may want to swap out the two Spirit of Temptation for two copies of 7WS. You do lose two banding hand-discard characters (which I understand you are not going to be crazy about), but you gain quite a bit. With all the other banding you have, once 7WS is out your opponent has to decide if they want to take a chance putting down their defenders knowing you can always choose to use them against them. This works especially well against big banding defenses with lots of archers.

Quote from: Gabe on April 05, 2011, 08:50:04 AM

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on April 05, 2011, 08:22:59 AM
Quote from: RTSmaniac on April 05, 2011, 02:40:39 AM
My defense contains King Hazael which can hit most OT Forts so all OT protect forts in play, but I have only 1 in deck (should I add more?) and he works when converted i think...
Not so sure about that. The requirement to discard a gray enhancement makes that an evil-only ability, doesn't it?

You're getting stuck in the "old way", Matt. A few years ago, when I was still a young whipper snapper at Redemption, they changed the rules for conversion. If a Hero becomes evil, the abilities no longer convert - at all. Ever. Evil Characters convert as long as the ability does not directly harm a Hero.

Oh, that's right...I seem to recall hearing something about that.

In my defense the Maniac also had some doubts.

Carl deuty · « **Reply #18 on:** April 05, 2011, 10:06:34 AM »

yeah, you really need to put in the FBTN ls bc Piggies could shut down your speed

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #19 on:** April 05, 2011, 10:31:07 PM »

I agree.

The Guardian · « **Reply #20 on:** April 07, 2011, 12:50:22 AM »

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if i have to, i will just shove them at you 1 claudia, 1 et...at a time

Unless you have Chariot, you're gonna run out of Claudia and ET's long before I run out of ways to get rid of them...

Mr.Hiatus · « **Reply #21 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:05:01 AM »

He won't attack when he gets low though. That or he will recur Pentecost and do things in battle then set himself aside.

Kor · « **Reply #22 on:** April 07, 2011, 03:20:41 AM »

I would think any strong BTN would give this deck nightmares with only 1 holy of holies and I guess destructive sin? I like the idea though.

Carl deuty · « **Reply #23 on:** April 07, 2011, 08:26:51 AM »

Not when he is putting your number enhancements under your deck, your heroes under your deck, or any number of other things that he can take away from you. Plus he plays the grey card outside of battle with highplaces and he can recur them with golgotha and abe's kid( which is sweet)!

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 07, 2011, 08:55:08 AM »

Quote from: Carl deuty on April 07, 2011, 08:26:51 AM

Not when he is putting your number enhancements under your deck, your heroes under your deck, or any number of other things that he can take away from you. Plus he plays the grey card outside of battle with highplaces and he can recur them with golgotha and abe's kid( which is sweet)!

Still all you need to defeat any of his ECs are TSA and one enhancement, unless he wants to play multiple copies of Namaan's Horsies on one character.

Have you played this against anyone who used a Big Angels deck? How did Syrian Victory! fare in that matchup?

Quote from: Gabe on April 05, 2011, 08:50:04 AM

Evil Characters convert as long as the ability does not directly harm a Hero.

And since "harm" is defined as any affect from a different alignment--no converted abilities will *ever* "directly harm a Hero." Now I see where you are heading with this.

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Author Topic: Benedictus.dek (Read 5060 times)

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