Author Topic: Purple/Herods (Read 4711 times)

browarod · « **on:** November 29, 2009, 11:35:12 PM »

I got some help with the purple offense, but any further comments are more than welcome. What I really need help with is the defense. And by help I mean halp!

Cards in Deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
Color Guard
Revealer
2-liner
Punisher
Shuffler
Female-only
NT-only
First round

Dominants: 8
SoG
NJ
AotL
Grapes

CM
Burial
DoN
FA

Fortresses: 2
The Throne of David
High Places

Sites: 2
Herod's Dungeon
Pergamum

Artifacts: 3
Chariot of Fire
Darius' Decree
Three Nails

Purple Heroes: 8
ET
King Solomon (TexP)
King Hiram
King Lemuel
King David
King Hezekiah
King's Daughter
Esther

Purple Hero Enhancements: 7
AoCP
Royal Parade
Pentecost
Peace Treaty
Testing Solomon's Wisdom
Reach
Philosophy

Gold Evil Characters: 5
Herod Antipas
Herodias
Herod Agrippa II (TexP)
Salome (TexP)
Panic Demon

Crimson Evil Characters: 2
Herodian
Panic Demon

Black Evil Characters: 2
Herod the Great
Panic Demon

Gold Evil Enhancements: 6
Rash Oath
Pagan Sacrifices
Spreading Mildew
Failed Objective
Rizpah's Sackcloth
Mask of Fear

Crimson Evil Enhancements: 4
Set Fire
Nebuchadnezzar's Pride
Seeds of Doubt
Dejected

Black Evil Enhancements: 5
Wrath of Satan
Reckless Endangerment
Danites Attack
Devourer
Joseph in Prison

Multicolor Evil Enhancements: 1
Herod's Treachery

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #1 on:** November 30, 2009, 01:01:34 AM »

PWD helps with Herod defenses. With correct timing, the only Male Heroes they can use are ones with 4-6 defense. Other than Gold, very few offenses use Heroes that fit the bill. Beast from the Earth is another good card to splash into a Herod defense.

browarod · « **Reply #2 on:** November 30, 2009, 02:01:20 AM »

What is PWD? I'm not up with all the abbreviations (there's so many, and some can refer to multiple cards). Beast from the Earth is an interesting choice, I'll add him in.

Are there any evil gold "place" cards that are good that I'm missing? I'm not sure if High Places is needed with only 2 so far, or if I should break into another brigade to make it more useful.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #3 on:** November 30, 2009, 02:05:23 AM »

PWD is Plagued With Diseases, a Brown Curse which decreases the opponents hero's by /2 or /3 if they have less or more redemed souls than you respectively.

browarod · « **Reply #4 on:** November 30, 2009, 02:08:20 AM »

Alright, I threw in PWD, but I think the defense is still lacking in some regard, especially since it only has 5 characters.

christiangamer25 · « **Reply #5 on:** November 30, 2009, 07:43:11 AM »

ok pwd is a curse can be played as an artifact and more then likely prolly should be why do you have beast from the earth also i know its not herod but maybe add queen tehpenaz the egyptian chic. also maybe king of tyrus the gold version then maybe the herod agripa 1 i think it is that deals with peter for some anti tgt stuff

browarod · « **Reply #6 on:** November 30, 2009, 10:59:16 AM »

So...Herods is harder than I thought. It seems like they'd be better in a bigger defense than I have room for in this deck with purple. Would it be better to switch to Philistines or Assyrians?

browarod · « **Reply #7 on:** December 01, 2009, 12:55:43 AM »

Deck updated.

Could use some opinions on the new defense. ^_^

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #8 on:** December 01, 2009, 06:23:33 AM »

Hunger is a good card to combo with PWD.

browarod · « **Reply #9 on:** December 01, 2009, 09:14:59 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on December 01, 2009, 06:23:33 AM

Hunger is a good card to combo with PWD.

Do you have a suggestion for what to take out? My initial thought would be Wrath of Satan as Hunger doesn't affect my own heroes while WoS would.

Master KChief · « **Reply #10 on:** December 01, 2009, 10:45:04 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on November 30, 2009, 01:01:34 AM

PWD helps with Herod defenses. With correct timing, the only Male Heroes they can use are ones with 4-6 defense. Other than Gold, very few offenses use Heroes that fit the bill. Beast from the Earth is another good card to splash into a Herod defense.

how does pwd help? pwd affects defense, while herods dungeon is based off of offense.

browarod · « **Reply #11 on:** December 01, 2009, 10:48:05 AM »

Perhaps he thought PWD was 2/0(3/0) rather than 0/2(0/3)?

I think I may end up taking it out to put GoYS back in.

Master KChief · « **Reply #12 on:** December 01, 2009, 11:11:52 AM »

king asa also discards your own high places. not good.

browarod · « **Reply #13 on:** December 01, 2009, 11:32:39 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on December 01, 2009, 11:11:52 AM

king asa also discards your own high places. not good.

You're right, of course. Any suggestions for what to replace him with?

Master KChief · « **Reply #14 on:** December 01, 2009, 11:40:54 AM »

if you're looking for another king, either king hiram or king hezekiah would be good. hiram to tutor for both of your ot fortresses or speed up drawing (he also has excellent stats), or hezekiah to get rid of anything stopping your ttod (a very awesomely underrated card).

browarod · « **Reply #15 on:** December 01, 2009, 11:44:38 AM »

Alrighty, I swapped Asa for Hiram, but I'm wondering if I can work Hezekiah in, too, as he does have a nice effect. Just not sure what to take out to put him in (maybe PWD?).

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #16 on:** December 01, 2009, 02:00:34 PM »

The reason PWD works well with Herods even though Dungeon is based on offense is that Heroes people use frequently with an offense less than 7 will typically have a defense less than 4. And since he's using Black anyway, the ability to wipe out all but a select few Heroes regardless of protection from Discard...timed well that's game-ending.

browarod · « **Reply #17 on:** December 01, 2009, 02:11:51 PM »

Ah! I see what you mean.

Hunger + PWD = bye bye heroes with 8(9) or less toughness, unless I'm mistaken....

browarod · « **Reply #18 on:** December 01, 2009, 06:38:11 PM »

Took out Devourer to put Hunger in.

Any last comments/suggestions before I commit myself to using this deck next time I play on RTS?

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #19 on:** December 04, 2009, 10:10:51 PM »

I would take out King Hirum for Kind Hezzy.

browarod · « **Reply #20 on:** December 04, 2009, 10:27:54 PM »

Quote from: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on December 04, 2009, 10:10:51 PM

I would take out King Hirum for Kind Hezzy.

You mean Hezekiah? He's already in there

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #21 on:** December 04, 2009, 10:29:52 PM »

sorry my bad. lol Didn't see him with all the kings in there lol. I love throwing elijah in there. CM doesn't get rid of him in battle too.

browarod · « **Reply #22 on:** December 04, 2009, 10:37:50 PM »

Replacing Hiram with Elijah would mean one less way to search for my fortresses as well as one less target for The Throne of David.

lightningninja · « **Reply #23 on:** December 04, 2009, 11:08:25 PM »

Too many enhancements to evil characters. WAY too many. You're gonna find you don't have evil characters and you're going to be discarding enhancements cause you can't play them.

browarod · « **Reply #24 on:** December 04, 2009, 11:13:44 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on December 04, 2009, 11:08:25 PM

Too many enhancements to evil characters. WAY too many. You're gonna find you don't have evil characters and you're going to be discarding enhancements cause you can't play them.

I haven't had that trouble so far when playtesting this deck...Is there some reason you would think that? All the enhancements are either battle winners or "place" cards.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #25 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:38:12 AM »

Why Herod 1? I think Herodian would be a better fit.

browarod · « **Reply #26 on:** December 05, 2009, 10:53:29 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on December 05, 2009, 10:38:12 AM

Why Herod 1? I think Herodian would be a better fit.

Hmm, I suppose you are correct. Is Herodian considered a "herod" for card's like Rash Oath and Herod's Treachery?

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #27 on:** December 05, 2009, 12:14:01 PM »

Quote from: browarod on December 05, 2009, 10:53:29 AM

Quote from: Ring Wraith on December 05, 2009, 10:38:12 AM
Why Herod 1? I think Herodian would be a better fit.
Hmm, I suppose you are correct. Is Herodian considered a "herod" for card's like Rash Oath and Herod's Treachery?

it doesn't say that, but I'd assume so since he has herod in the title and he can do something related to herods. as much of a herod as Herodias is, at least.

browarod · « **Reply #28 on:** December 05, 2009, 01:26:07 PM »

Alrighty, HA1 removed for Herodian.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #29 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:25:34 PM »

Herodian is NOT a Herod to my knowledge. I can be wrong but I believe he was a helper to herod.

lightningninja · « **Reply #30 on:** December 10, 2009, 05:26:45 PM »

Here's a hint: use Herod Agrippa II and convert him to a hero. So much for protection forts.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #31 on:** December 14, 2009, 02:33:20 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on December 05, 2009, 12:14:01 PM

it doesn't say that, but I'd assume so since he has herod in the title and he can do something related to herods. as much of a herod as Herodias is, at least.

I'm pretty sure the herodians were just people who supported the herods politically, kind of like Republicans and Democrats. Herodian is not a Herod, nor does he have Herod in the title (according to the REG at least) so he can't even band to another copy of himself.

Herodias also doesn't have Herod in the title according to the REG, and I don't believe she would be considered a Herod either. Especially since Salome's ability differentiates between the two.

browarod · « **Reply #32 on:** December 14, 2009, 03:29:41 PM »

I never suspected Herodias was a Herod, I just thought I'd ask about Herodian for the sake of clarification and knowing what my deck does before using it in a game. Thanks for the confirmation ^_^

Professoralstad · « **Reply #33 on:** December 14, 2009, 03:33:11 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on December 05, 2009, 12:14:01 PM

it doesn't say that, but I'd assume so since he has herod in the title and he can do something related to herods. as much of a herod as Herodias is, at least.

I was responding to this.

browarod · « **Reply #34 on:** December 14, 2009, 03:44:01 PM »

Well, either way, thanks for the info ^_^

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