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Advice...Pls? Revision 04/12/2010
« on: March 04, 2010, 11:36:26 AM »
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Per some suggestions (latest by Gabe), deck revised 04/12/2010.  Critique, please.

To those who have been part of the critique team AND are active participants, I promise a McDonald's breakfast if you attend Nats.  Gabe, I owe you a couple of RTS games!!!

Thanks and Godbless!

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CHANGES:
**none yet**

PLANS:
**none yet**

THINKTANK:
1.  What extra card should I put in place of Haman's Plot when it's used up, to keep my deck legal, thus 51-card total?
2.  If I insisted on 5 more cards,  does anyone among the 50-card fanatics, including my 'nephew' Gabe, have the ultimate fix that could still be as good as a 50-card deck?
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Cards in deck: 50
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)
   Lost Soul (1st Round)
   Lost Soul (NT Only)
   Lost Soul (Hopper)

Lamb Dominants: 6
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God
   Harvest Time

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 2
   Philistine Outpost
   The Garden Tomb
  
Multi-Color Sites: 1
   The Ends of the Earth

Artifacts: 3
   Gifts of the Magi
   Temple Veil
   Holy Grail

Silver Heroes: 2
   Captain of the Host
   The Strong Angel

White Heroes: 2
   Mary the Mother of James
   Salome

Gold Heroes: 3
   The Woman at the Well
   Moses
   Simeon (wa)

Green Heroes: 1
   Hur

Purple Heroes: 2
   Widow
   John

Multi Heroes: 1
   Faithful Servant Promo

White Hero Enhancements: 3
   'He Is Risen'
   Transfiguration
   Consider the Lilies

Gold Hero Enhancements: 1
   Meeting the Messiah  

Purple Hero Enhancements: 2
   Authority of Christ (promo)
   Reach of Desperation

Black Evil Characters: 3
   Philistine Garrison
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant
   Philistine Armor-Bearer

Brown Evil Characters: 3
   Uzzah
   Gomer
   The Amalekite's Slave

Orange Gold Evil Characters: 1
   King of Tyrus

Brown Evil Enhancements 1
   Haman's Plot
« Last Edit: April 12, 2010, 10:37:24 PM by ReyZen »
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 11:37:24 AM »
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Take Abomination of Desolation out, you don't have any Greeks in here.

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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 11:38:15 AM »
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I think that house could be switched for 3 nails.
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 11:39:56 AM »
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Take Abomination of Desolation out, you don't have any Greeks in here.
I think he has the multi Greeks in there, seeing as his deck is also a few cards short of 56 from what I counted.

My advice would be to take out TGT. You don't really need it in a deck like this. ::)
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 11:47:14 AM »
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Take Abomination of Desolation out, you don't have any Greeks in here.

Hey Alex.  Aren't the two multi-evil guys both Greek?  I also have PM for you.  Thanks!
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 11:48:38 AM »
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yes they are both greek
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« Reply #6 on: March 04, 2010, 11:52:26 AM »
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Yeah they are. RTS doesn't export them in the file though. So they aren't in your deck list right now. I hadn't noticed you were short 2 cards.

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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2010, 11:56:23 AM »
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I think that house could be switched for 3 nails.

Hey Josh.  You think that Three Nails is more useful, right?
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #8 on: March 04, 2010, 11:59:29 AM »
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Yeah they are. RTS doesn't export them in the file though. So they aren't in your deck list right now. I hadn't noticed you were short 2 cards.

Boy, thanks for catching that guys.  Is it a glitch that causes those cards not to get copied onto the clipboard?
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2010, 12:11:49 PM »
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Yeah they are. RTS doesn't export them in the file though. So they aren't in your deck list right now. I hadn't noticed you were short 2 cards.

Boy, thanks for catching that guys.  Is it a glitch that causes those cards not to get copied onto the clipboard?

Roy, the glitch is in RTS.  It can only handle certain card identifiers.  Teal and orange threw it for a loop.  I originally modified the cards.txt file for RTS so that cards would show up in the summaries, e.g. curses are defined as white covenants.  If those volunteers that are updating the cards.txt the past few releases are not remembering to do that, then some cards will not show up.
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2010, 12:29:08 PM »
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Hey there Scott!  Long time no see, brother!  Thanks for the heads-up.

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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2010, 01:01:47 PM »
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Do you have any other Orange or multicolor cards in there? Because each time I count this deck it comes out to only 55 cards.
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #12 on: March 04, 2010, 01:29:58 PM »
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Is this deck trying to site stall or not?  Mayhem can make that difficult if you draw lost souls at the wrong time, and Gifts of the Maji can do that to you with the Hur combo too.  You can also find yourself vulnerable to your own Garden Tomb being used against you, with your "splash" defense.  Captured Ark and/or Confusion of Mind could help keep them out of your sites too.  They can band to your own heroes too, without WOP in there.  Also, if you use WC Strong Angel and COTH you can add Israelite Archer (gold) to band to both of them.  Just some ideas to consider.

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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #13 on: March 04, 2010, 03:28:38 PM »
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I think that house could be switched for 3 nails.

Hey Josh.  You think that Three Nails is more useful, right?
Yeah, I mean, I assume you are using House as a deterant for demons? or am I just missing the point?
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #14 on: March 05, 2010, 12:06:24 PM »
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I think that house could be switched for 3 nails.

Hey Josh.  You think that Three Nails is more useful, right?
Yeah, I mean, I assume you are using House as a deterant for demons? or am I just missing the point?

Yes, it's just that with House I am more free to use my demons.  What do you think?
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« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2010, 12:42:03 PM »
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True, Hm, I just prefer 3nails cuz then I don't have to worry about it period, where as house I do, but I do see the defensive drawback.
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« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2010, 12:46:11 PM »
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I would replace Peter with Joanna. Peter is adding an extra brigade, which is unnecessary since Joanna is the same brigade as Hur, and besides, Mary can band to her. I don't see you being able to play Battle Cry very often with only one character to play it on anyway.
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2010, 12:48:24 PM »
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Peter counters Simon the Magician. Otherwise Simon can play CBN against just about all of his heroes.
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« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2010, 12:53:25 PM »
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I see. Well I would still get rid of Battle Cry and Captain of the Host to add Joanna and Feast of Trumpets (this is an Abom deck, oui?).
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2010, 02:07:32 PM »
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I would replace Peter with Joanna. Peter is adding an extra brigade, which is unnecessary since Joanna is the same brigade as Hur, and besides, Mary can band to her. I don't see you being able to play Battle Cry very often with only one character to play it on anyway.

What do you think if I replaced Peter with FS promo?
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2010, 02:08:38 PM »
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Peter counters Simon the Magician. Otherwise Simon can play CBN against just about all of his heroes.

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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2010, 02:11:01 PM »
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.... and Feast of Trumpets (this is an Abom deck, oui?).

Clarification ... please?  Thanks and Godbless!
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2010, 02:11:10 PM »
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Me too. I left him at home when I went to college. ;) I personally think leave Peter, but cut Battle Cry, BB's right, you'll rarely hit them together. I'd put in Feast of Trumpets.
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Re: Advice...Pls?
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2010, 02:16:58 PM »
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What do you think if I replaced Peter with FS promo?
Well, now that I think of it, I might not get rid of Peter. If you are expecting to run into Simon and not being able to deal with him (which is even more likely seeing as you are playing Black), Then Peter is a good fit in this deck. However, I stand by this:
Well I would still get rid of Battle Cry and Captain of the Host to add Joanna and Feast of Trumpets.
Battle Cry will likely never see play. I don't think you need Captain and TSA, and Captain has far fewer benefits since he allows banding (which you don't have) and he is OT (which is easier to target). Also, TSA can be brought in for FbtN when using He Is Risen. I don't know if FSP would really be that useful, since there isn't even that much you can play on him/her.

.... and Feast of Trumpets (this is an Abom deck, oui?).

Clarification ... please?  Thanks and Godbless!
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« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2010, 08:38:55 PM »
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i would switch out striking herod for Fire smoke and sulfur

 


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