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Shuffle and Set-Aside
« on: August 19, 2008, 07:22:28 PM »
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Is there any way to protect from/prevent shuffle or set-aside cards? I mean, Nergalsharezer w/ Swift Horses + Nebuchadnezzar's Pride seems like a completely undefeatable combo (although you do lose Swift Horses).
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2008, 07:51:50 PM »
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Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 19, 2008, 07:22:28 PM
Is there any way to protect from/prevent shuffle or set-aside cards? I mean, Nergalsharezer w/ Swift Horses + Nebuchadnezzar's Pride seems like a completely undefeatable combo (although you do lose Swift Horses).
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2008, 07:59:53 PM »
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Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 19, 2008, 07:22:28 PM
Is there any way to protect from/prevent shuffle or set-aside cards? I mean, Nergalsharezer w/ Swift Horses + Nebuchadnezzar's Pride seems like a completely undefeatable combo (although you do lose Swift Horses).


And Nergal.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2008, 08:08:55 PM »
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Well, you don't lose Nerg.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2008, 08:33:18 PM »
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Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 19, 2008, 07:22:28 PM
Is there any way to protect from/prevent shuffle or set-aside cards? I mean, Nergalsharezer w/ Swift Horses + Nebuchadnezzar's Pride seems like a completely undefeatable combo (although you do lose Swift Horses).

Why would you lose swift horses?
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2008, 08:43:52 PM »
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Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Crimson • Ability: 0 / 6 • Special Ability: Interrupt the battle and set aside all characters and Sites in battle for four turns.
It sets aside characters only. :'(
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 09:05:12 PM »
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cards like Swift Horses follow the character their on I thought...
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 09:20:00 PM »
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Hey,

Yes weapons follow the character if the character is set aside.

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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2008, 09:34:28 PM »
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Quote from: SirNobody on August 19, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
Hey,

Yes weapons follow the character if the character is set aside.

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Is set aside in territory?
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2008, 09:59:11 PM »
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2008, 10:02:42 PM »
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Quote from: SirNobody on August 19, 2008, 09:20:00 PM
Yes weapons follow the character if the character is set aside.
But NP interrupts the battle to set the characters aside.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2008, 10:04:54 PM »
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Interrupting the battle is not relevant.  Weapons stick by game rule, not because of a special ability.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #12 on: August 19, 2008, 10:08:34 PM »
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Quote from: The Schaef on August 19, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
Interrupting the battle is not relevant.  Weapons stick by game rule, not because of a special ability.

Adding on to this, How can a weapon stay on a character outside of battle... thats like, MEGA interrupting the battle.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2008, 08:03:05 PM »
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Quote from: The Schaef on August 19, 2008, 09:59:11 PM
 

In that case the weapon is discarded.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2008, 08:13:11 PM »
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Quote from: The Schaef on August 19, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
Weapons stick by game rule, not because of a special ability.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2008, 08:15:28 PM »
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Quote from: Archangel withabunchofnumbersontheend on August 20, 2008, 08:13:11 PM
Quote from: The Schaef on August 19, 2008, 10:04:54 PM
Weapons stick by game rule, not because of a special ability.

Shaef has told me that weapons stick only in territory.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2008, 08:17:22 PM »
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quote, please?
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #17 on: August 20, 2008, 08:19:00 PM »
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Quote from: The Schaef on August 20, 2008, 08:17:22 PM
quote, please?

. It was on that weapons thread i created lemme fetch it.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #18 on: August 20, 2008, 08:21:46 PM »
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Quote from: TheHobbit13 on August 20, 2008, 08:19:00 PM
Quote from: The Schaef on August 20, 2008, 08:17:22 PM
quote, please?

. It was on that weapons thread i created lemme fetch it.

If it helps, it was the one where you wanted to leave a weapon on a Lost Soul.  You can search for "knife fights in the Land O'Bondage."  I think I used that phrase a time or two in the thread.  ;)

[Late Update]  I just checked Hobbit's thread linked to down below, and I did use that phrase!  At least I can remember pointless things.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 08:37:24 PM by EmJayBee83 »
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #19 on: August 20, 2008, 08:27:16 PM »
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I searched all six pages of that thread and found no statement whatsoever regarding setting aside characters with weapons attached.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2008, 08:32:38 PM »
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This what you said:

"The Warrior continues to hold the weapon when he's in territory.  That covers conversion.
The Weapon follows all other rules regarding Enhancements.  That covers capture, shuffle, and etc.
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http://cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=10508.60
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2008, 08:33:30 PM »
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Where's the part where I said he does not hold the weapon if set aside?
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2008, 08:44:02 PM »
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Quote from: The Schaef on August 20, 2008, 08:33:30 PM
Where's the part where I said he does not hold the weapon if set aside?


"The Weapon follows all other rules regarding Enhancements."
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2008, 08:55:27 PM »
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Weapons stick because they don't follow ALL rules of enhancements.
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Re: Shuffle and Set-Aside
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2008, 09:00:56 PM »
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Quote from: TheHobbit13 on August 20, 2008, 08:44:02 PM
"The Weapon follows all other rules regarding Enhancements."

I think you would be well-advised to remember the context of the discussion.  You were trying to say the game was inconsistent and/or broken because weapons did not follow this rule or that rule which is supposed to apply to placed cards.  The entire discussion was centered around the distinction between weapons as a special type of card, and placed cards as a special ability.  The question of set-aside never entered the discussion because it never came to that.  The entire focus was on issues like shuffling, conversion, and so forth.
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