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Re: James son Alphie
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2011, 09:12:05 AM »
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Wait, what? So protection doesn't protect from numbers now? I thought there was just a big to-do about the official ruling being the opposite...
What made you come to that conclusion?  No one here claimed it to be so, Browarod asked a question because he was confused.
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Re: James son Alphie
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2011, 09:28:35 AM »
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Wait, what? So protection doesn't protect from numbers now? I thought there was just a big to-do about the official ruling being the opposite...

What they are saying is that "protected from discard abilities" does not protect from the numbers, but "protect from discard" does. Job is the former.
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Re: James son Alphie
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2011, 09:32:54 AM »
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(let's try and make this 2-1...)  Since Job says "capture abilities" the word abilities applies to all protects on the card (a la Reach of Desperation's "may" applying individually to all three abilities).  HPP doesn't say abilities. 
"May" has specifically been ruled to apply to all abilities listed with an "and", does this mean that "abilities" is considered to have a similar, overarching ruling? I wasn't aware that it did, but I guess I wouldn't be surprised.

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Re: James son Alphie
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2011, 09:43:30 AM »
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That was my guess, it was what made sense to me.
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Re: James son Alphie
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2011, 02:25:03 PM »
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Job specifically says "abilities"
Job (Pi)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: 6 / 12 • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect Job from discard and capture abilities. • Play As: Protect Job from discard abilities and capture abilities. • Identifiers: OT Male Human • Verse: Job 2:3 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Rare)
Actually, that's the play as, which is incorrect. Job just says "discard" so it has been ruled that he's protected from game rule discards as well as abilities.

Woah, so Job is protected from the numbers?
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Re: James son Alphie
« Reply #30 on: August 08, 2011, 04:12:43 PM »
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Woah, so Job is protected from the numbers?

No he is not:

Job specifically says "abilities"
Job (Pi)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: 6 / 12 • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect Job from discard and capture abilities. • Play As: Protect Job from discard abilities and capture abilities. • Identifiers: OT Male Human • Verse: Job 2:3 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Rare)
Actually, that's the play as, which is incorrect. Job just says "discard" so it has been ruled that he's protected from game rule discards as well as abilities.
Actually, the Elders took this exact question to Rob, and he ruled that Job is not protected from discard by numbers.  http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/job-question/msg397021/#msg397021
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Re: James son Alphie
« Reply #31 on: August 08, 2011, 04:21:20 PM »
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Job specifically says "abilities"
Job (Pi)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Blue • Ability: 6 / 12 • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect Job from discard and capture abilities. • Play As: Protect Job from discard abilities and capture abilities. • Identifiers: OT Male Human • Verse: Job 2:3 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Rare)
Actually, that's the play as, which is incorrect. Job just says "discard" so it has been ruled that he's protected from game rule discards as well as abilities.

Woah, so Job is protected from the numbers?
Only if you don't read the rest of the thread.
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