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ANB should be banned...it just causes so much trouble.  Though I think this one is easy!

A New Beginning:
"ALL players shuffle ALL cards in the field of play, set-aside areas and their hands back into their draw pile. Only cards in Land of Redemption and discard piles remain. ALL players Draw 8 new cards. Holder may begin a new turn"

Only cards in LoR and discard piles remain...are face down artifacts either one of those? No, so they get shuffled.

I see what your point is but I think they are two completely different situations...I don't think you can compare ANB to any other situation because it is a card like none other with an ability completely unique to itself.

I am just saying I don't think there can be a comparison made between ANB and any other card. That is how I view that card.

haha ok you got me there 

So which is it? O_o; Can an "All" ability beat out an out of play rule?

If a Face-down card can start a Rescue attempt (which is something only heroes can do) via Ambush, then I think they do keep alignments.

I know ANB shuffles face down stuff because it just says "all cards," and a face down card is still a card.

To be fair, ANB says "ALL cards."  Perhaps the all-caps bypasses the game rule? 

Hey,

Authority of Christ doesn't discard a face down evil character in The Darkness even though it says "all."  Dragon Raid doesn't discard a face down evil character on a site even though it says "all."

The "Only cards in Land of Redemption and Discard Pile remain" clause on A New Beginning is the excuse we're going to use for why A New Beginning gets face down cards when other cards don't.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

The "Only cards in Land of Redemption and Discard Pile remain" clause on A New Beginning is the excuse we're going to use for why A New Beginning gets face down cards when other cards don't.

So if that one clause is the reason, and it creates exceptions to game rules, then even "protected" cards should be shuffled, right?