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starting bid: $1.05

$25.01!

$45


Godspeed,
Mike

Seriously? We can do better. $200

Current bid at 300$ which is about the TLG “value” of the cards I won only at 2019 nats this year ...

I want to buy as many cards as I can. What is the latest bid?

Current bid is at $300.00

Not looking too promising considering this is all the cards in the game with special winner promos and just the next set is asking $400.00 new 😂

  It has the 2016 winner promos?

I think it is just the sheer price all at once. I’m not sure how many people really have that much just ‘lying around’ that isn’t for something immediately necessary.

I agree that retailers should maybe re-evaluate the worth of some cards, though to be honest I'm surprised none of them have put in an offer for this, unless that is the $300?

As for players not paying more, I assume most that can drop $300+ on cards probably already have most of what you are selling, and with the new set being released soon would rather buy cards they do not have.

So even though it is good 'value' to get all the previous sets it may be too much of a financial commitment to buy such a large bundle of cards.  I'm guessing you would have more luck splitting this up, but that would certainly take a lot more time and effort.

I can’t speak for other retailers (from what I understand Ken with TLG is no longer purchasing collections) but from my perspective there are some factors at play here:

1. LoC is coming up and any new set is where the bulk of retailer money goes (especially with the price per pack of this set), so I’m saving up for that
2. The player base is still small, and there aren’t that many new players replacing them, so that doesn’t create much demand for the cards (since most players already have what they need). And less demand means less income for us retailers, and less demand and income means less purchasing of collections
3. I’d be interested in purchasing this specific collection but all that’s posted is a collection which has “everything.” I’d need to know if there are multiples of cards and which cards those are. Also, I know Josiah just sold a bunch of high end ultra rares and promos, so did he have more of those which are being sold now with the other cards in the respective sets? Are all of these cards in near mint to mint condition? The more info the better.
4. I just bought Andy’s collection (again) and got an amazing deal.
5. YTG does purchase collections but the price for the seller and I has to be right and depends on what is being sold. And for a bulk collection the money given for it by me is much lower to the owner than if the owner parted out the collection to the general public as I will offer bulk pricing, which is a low percentage for the collector
6. I try and save money for other things, such as advertisement-related items, special projects (tshirts, playmats, etc), general business expenses, etc. and can’t always put money back into cards.

As for retailers re-evaluating the worth of some cards, that’s what I’ve done with YTG. Some cards are much less and as they are low in demand or not being played much (regardless of my supply), while others are a little higher based upon supply and demand and deck staples. I try and keep an accurate pulse on the Redemption market and adjust card prices accordingly, some cards initially being higher but now lower based upon demand dropping off, and vice versa.

If I were in the market to consider bidding on this I would not bid very much because the description "everything" is very subjective and doesn't really tell me much. I recommend giving people a better idea of what's here without going into details. For example:

All complete sets Limited to . All promo cards released except (whatever is missing). Many valuable duplicates such as (list some of the high end cards that you have in multiple).

You certainly don't have to list everything out and it's probably easier to mention the cards that are excluded if there are any. But that will give potential buyers a much better idea so they can bid appropriately.

Pretty clearly stated there is just about every card needed to play.. if anyone wants to make offers on singles go right ahead because the winner promos alone are worth more than 300$ according to tlg

I’m at the point where I’m willing to part with the cards because I have no incentive to play anything but fun online games on my phone where I have immediate access anywhere and a giant population

Everyone I know has been run out of redemption by rules lawyering i actually know people who used to play and have no interest in trying to pick it back up where they left off which is basically the same problem I face with potential new players I’m just being dishonest acting as if the rules aren’t overly complicated even with sealed

Maybe I should just settle for 300$ to be done with it thanks guys

if anyone wants to make offers on singles go right ahead because the winner promos alone are worth more than 300$ according to tlg

If there is a current high bid on the "entire collection", barring something being worked out with the current high bidder, offers shouldn't be made or taken on singles from the collection being bid on.

Everyone I know has been run out of redemption by rules lawyering i actually know people who used to play and have no interest in trying to pick it back up where they left off which is basically the same problem I face with potential new players I’m just being dishonest acting as if the rules aren’t overly complicated even with sealed

     This seems indicative of something other than Redemption being the issue. We don't always know why players leave and don't come back and why others leave and comeback. Some players are gone for years and comeback. I was gone for 5 years and came back. TEC, TPC, CoW, RoJ and FoM had all been released and PoC was being released. Things had changed and other have been gone longer and comeback. I disagree with overly complicated rules even with Sealed. I have had the honor and privilege of introducing several new players in the past 2 months to Redemption with Starter Decks. (G&H and I&J) They loved it. A new player here has purchased the Flood-type Contender deck from YTG. He cross referenced it against your Nats deck and made additional purchases to get it as close to what you had built on his first go around. All this before EVER playing a single game of Redemption. His first game was today in a Local Sealed deck tournament. He is more excited now then before. I give credit where credit is due, JD. You have had an impact on Redemption. I have learned much from our online games and appreciate being taken to school.... every time.

I’m at the point where I’m willing to part with the cards because I have no incentive to play anything but fun online games on my phone where I have immediate access anywhere and a giant population

This is the most telling for me. I can see where Redemption may not fit in for you, but this does not take away what you have brought to Redemption in pushing the limits of what can or cannot be done. (CoL anyone?  )


Godspeed,
Mike

Either way seems tlg should re-evaluate card values to give owners a more accurate idea of what their collections are worth ..

For sales TLG has always had a considerable built-in pricing premium over pure card value.* If you simply want a way to estimate what a collection is worth, look at the pricing on TLG's buy list.  For desirable cards that is typically 25-50% of the resale value (if a card is priced under $1 resale it is basically worth nothing).

*Because TLG is a premium re-seller. Service is always top notch. Cards are always available and of high quality. etc.

Maybe I should just settle for 300$ to be done with it thanks guys

Or take whiteandgold7's offer to sell your cards on consignment. Seriously, is any realistic amount of extra money really worth the aggravation this seems to be causing you?

current bid: $300
consignment offer: $1000

I take it the 2016 and 2017 special Nats promos aren’t among this collection?

since everyone is whining

Not sure how you came to this conclusion , but it is not accurate.


Godspeed,
Mike

I'm not really sure exactly all you're getting at because the grammar in your post is severely lacking while it seems you are intentionally making a lot of references to a plethora of different topics but mostly expressing your displeasure with decisions that were made previously.

You may want to consider waiting until spring time to go through with selling your entire collection.  I may be completely off base but depression often shows itself shortly after the return to standard time from daylight savings time as well as during winter months due to a lack of sunlight. 

JD,

I want you to know that I care about you. I've been praying for you and the personal struggle you've been going through.  Honestly I believe its safe to say that the amount of personal turmoil in your life over the last 6 months has been enough to tear down the strongest person.  Please don't take this as criticism, I have been going through my own inner healing and part of that was taking a step back from redemption and other things in my life that aren't at the core of my life. 

Any of the people that want to say "Personal life shouldn't impact the way you interact with other people" take a step back and save that post for your own journey.  The stress and anguish JD has had to walk through is incredible and he needs prayer support and love; not a bashing.  This thread is a byproduct of pain.

That said, JD i do think the healthiest thing for you to do with redemption is put it away.  I love you man and I don't want to see more anguish come your way over redemption.  I wish I had 700 dollars and Id send it to you today for the cards just to help you be able to walk away. 

Sincerely praying for you my friend.  Everyone else take it easy for the sake of a deeply wounded and hurting brother in Christ. 

Current bid: $375

Anyone else making any more bids? I'm about ready to send this stuff off..

current bid $400

Alright well I think I’m gonna go ahead and call it at $400 unless anyone else wants to make a bid I won’t be able to ship it out until Monday ..

FYI I paid 700$ for this complete collection prior to adding POC, 2019 promos, and nationals winner cards from 1st place sealed and 3rd place t12p and it DIDNT come with an iPad so whoever buys it is getting a great deal ..

Selling to Silenced Matrix for a whopping total of $400 ..