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« on: December 05, 2019, 03:58:53 PM »
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Josiah's old collection which has everything + a 2019 winner card set.

700$ and you pay for shipping

Sold: $400

Here is a picture with cards worth more than 700$ you can do yourself and the other is all of the sets in binders in card order plus a bin of cards and an ipad with lackey on it. if the price is double tlg its because there are multiple copies. barely listed all of the cards in this collection.

if you want to buy any singles make an offer
still will sell this collection as a whole as they go for 700$
https://imgur.com/gallery/RSI4SkG
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aotl   $100.00
serpent   $20.00
storehouse   $30.00
whirl   $30.00
sog/nj2x   $120.00
poz    $50.00
darkness   $150.00
cap   $75.00
glory   $80
esau   $30
daniel   $20
abrams army   $26
falling away   $60
eli   $20
grapes    $63
woes   $160
remnant   $49
martyr   $100
sheol   $50
valley   $100
shipwreck   $80
broken cov   $30
destruction   $50
emmaus   $35
tsc   $350
babel   $120
tsa   $75
wages   $60
ark   $30
eternal    $25
mayhem   $60
nero   $20
goliath   $40
Tabernacle   $30
   
pc   $210
foof    $88
roa   $94
txp   $70
disciples   $80
ec   $215
cow   $475
roj   $485
fom   $400

total tlg value: $4,455.00

ipad with redemption lackey: 100$
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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2019, 02:52:20 PM »
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starting bid: $1.05

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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2019, 03:29:16 PM »
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If we are bidding, then I am at $25.00.


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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2019, 05:25:27 PM »
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$25.01!
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2019, 05:53:59 PM »
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$40
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2019, 09:13:32 PM »
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$45


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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2019, 09:27:52 PM »
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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2019, 09:33:32 PM »
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Seriously? We can do better. $200
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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2019, 10:58:47 AM »
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Does it have most of the cards from the most recent two sets? I'd make a bid of $250 either way.

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« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2019, 12:29:17 PM »
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Current bid at 300$ which is about the TLG ďvalueĒ of the cards I won only at 2019 nats this year ...


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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2019, 06:28:43 AM »
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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2019, 10:56:10 PM »
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I want to buy as many cards as I can. What is the latest bid?
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2020, 01:02:55 PM »
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Current bid is at $300.00

Not looking too promising considering this is all the cards in the game with special winner promos and just the next set is asking $400.00 new 😂

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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2020, 02:26:27 PM »
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Current bid is at $300.00

Not looking too promising considering this is all the cards in the game with special winner promos and just the next set is asking $400.00 new 😂
  It has the 2016 winner promos?
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2020, 12:56:17 PM »
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Are those winner promos the difference between this entire collection only being worth 300$ or 700$?

Either way seems tlg should re-evaluate card values to give owners a more accurate idea of what their collections are worth ..

By tlg values this collection is worth well over 3000$ been offered 300$ FYI anyone looking to sell theirs or buy

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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2020, 01:06:50 PM »
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I think it is just the sheer price all at once. Iím not sure how many people really have that much just Ďlying aroundí that isnít for something immediately necessary.

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« Reply #16 on: January 03, 2020, 01:13:48 PM »
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I agree that retailers should maybe re-evaluate the worth of some cards, though to be honest I'm surprised none of them have put in an offer for this, unless that is the $300?

As for players not paying more, I assume most that can drop $300+ on cards probably already have most of what you are selling, and with the new set being released soon would rather buy cards they do not have.

So even though it is good 'value' to get all the previous sets it may be too much of a financial commitment to buy such a large bundle of cards.  I'm guessing you would have more luck splitting this up, but that would certainly take a lot more time and effort.
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« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2020, 02:47:21 PM »
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I agree that retailers should maybe re-evaluate the worth of some cards, though to be honest I'm surprised none of them have put in an offer for this, unless that is the $300?

As for players not paying more, I assume most that can drop $300+ on cards probably already have most of what you are selling, and with the new set being released soon would rather buy cards they do not have.

So even though it is good 'value' to get all the previous sets it may be too much of a financial commitment to buy such a large bundle of cards.  I'm guessing you would have more luck splitting this up, but that would certainly take a lot more time and effort.

I canít speak for other retailers (from what I understand Ken with TLG is no longer purchasing collections) but from my perspective there are some factors at play here:

1. LoC is coming up and any new set is where the bulk of retailer money goes (especially with the price per pack of this set), so Iím saving up for that
2. The player base is still small, and there arenít that many new players replacing them, so that doesnít create much demand for the cards (since most players already have what they need). And less demand means less income for us retailers, and less demand and income means less purchasing of collections
3. Iíd be interested in purchasing this specific collection but all thatís posted is a collection which has ďeverything.Ē Iíd need to know if there are multiples of cards and which cards those are. Also, I know Josiah just sold a bunch of high end ultra rares and promos, so did he have more of those which are being sold now with the other cards in the respective sets? Are all of these cards in near mint to mint condition? The more info the better.
4. I just bought Andyís collection (again) and got an amazing deal.
5. YTG does purchase collections but the price for the seller and I has to be right and depends on what is being sold. And for a bulk collection the money given for it by me is much lower to the owner than if the owner parted out the collection to the general public as I will offer bulk pricing, which is a low percentage for the collector
6. I try and save money for other things, such as advertisement-related items, special projects (tshirts, playmats, etc), general business expenses, etc. and canít always put money back into cards.

As for retailers re-evaluating the worth of some cards, thatís what Iíve done with YTG. Some cards are much less and as they are low in demand or not being played much (regardless of my supply), while others are a little higher based upon supply and demand and deck staples. I try and keep an accurate pulse on the Redemption market and adjust card prices accordingly, some cards initially being higher but now lower based upon demand dropping off, and vice versa.
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« Reply #18 on: January 03, 2020, 02:49:59 PM »
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Splitting a collection up is definitely the way to get more out of selling your collection.  That's what I've been doing.  I'm around $700 in gross sales and I still have stuff left to sell, and my collection didn't have any of the winners' promos.

Also, resale value is tricky when the player base can be measured in the hundreds.  There's a lot more risk for resellers that buyers' demand will simply disappear past a certain point. 
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« Reply #19 on: January 03, 2020, 05:11:26 PM »
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If I were in the market to consider bidding on this I would not bid very much because the description "everything" is very subjective and doesn't really tell me much. I recommend giving people a better idea of what's here without going into details. For example:

All complete sets Limited to ???. All promo cards released except (whatever is missing). Many valuable duplicates such as (list some of the high end cards that you have in multiple).

You certainly don't have to list everything out and it's probably easier to mention the cards that are excluded if there are any. But that will give potential buyers a much better idea so they can bid appropriately.
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« Reply #20 on: January 03, 2020, 09:54:04 PM »
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You have some great suggestions in the last few posts for how to get the most for the cards that you have. :) Derek is correct that I am not currently buying collections for Three Lions Gaming because I would only end up with a handful of cards that I would actually be able to sell in the next year.

You're also correct that values need to be reconsidered, and I've been working on it, but it's a slow process! Especially since I own and operate a Christian bookstore, teach math, tutor, and help homeschool our four kids.  ;D It takes time to inventory what I have since I bought Three Lions Gaming back in July in order to determine appropriate pricing for the cards.

I can also tell you that I would willingly sell a set of 100,000 cards for $1,000 if I got to pick which cards were in included, so quantity doesn't determine price. If you can provide some more information, you'll have a lot more people that are interested in some or all of your collection!

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« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2020, 07:48:01 PM »
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Pretty clearly stated there is just about every card needed to play.. if anyone wants to make offers on singles go right ahead because the winner promos alone are worth more than 300$ according to tlg

Iím at the point where Iím willing to part with the cards because I have no incentive to play anything but fun online games on my phone where I have immediate access anywhere and a giant population

Everyone I know has been run out of redemption by rules lawyering i actually know people who used to play and have no interest in trying to pick it back up where they left off which is basically the same problem I face with potential new players Iím just being dishonest acting as if the rules arenít overly complicated even with sealed

Maybe I should just settle for 300$ to be done with it thanks guys

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« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2020, 09:15:42 PM »
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Pretty clearly stated there is just about every card needed to play.. if anyone wants to make offers on singles go right ahead because the winner promos alone are worth more than 300$ according to tlg

Iím at the point where Iím willing to part with the cards because I have no incentive to play anything but fun online games on my phone where I have immediate access anywhere and a giant population

Everyone I know has been run out of redemption by rules lawyering i actually know people who used to play and have no interest in trying to pick it back up where they left off which is basically the same problem I face with potential new players Iím just being dishonest acting as if the rules arenít overly complicated even with sealed

Maybe I should just settle for 300$ to be done with it thanks guys


As a retailer, I'd be willing to sell your collection on a consignment basis.  I'd be willing to give you $700 for it as I sell the cards.  When cards sell, you receive the money.  The first $700 I raise is yours everything else is mine (and that's assuming of course there is 1 of every card that exists in the game except for a few promos.  If this information is being misrepresented than I cannot guarantee the $700.  I will pay for you to ship it to me.  Please let me know if you'd like the $700 as I sell this collection for you.  All you would need to do is sit back enjoy your other games, and wait for it to sell.  Please let me know if this interests you.

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« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2020, 09:37:10 PM »
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if anyone wants to make offers on singles go right ahead because the winner promos alone are worth more than 300$ according to tlg

If there is a current high bid on the "entire collection", barring something being worked out with the current high bidder, offers shouldn't be made or taken on singles from the collection being bid on.

Everyone I know has been run out of redemption by rules lawyering i actually know people who used to play and have no interest in trying to pick it back up where they left off which is basically the same problem I face with potential new players Iím just being dishonest acting as if the rules arenít overly complicated even with sealed

     This seems indicative of something other than Redemption being the issue. We don't always know why players leave and don't come back and why others leave and comeback. Some players are gone for years and comeback. I was gone for 5 years and came back. TEC, TPC, CoW, RoJ and FoM had all been released and PoC was being released. Things had changed and other have been gone longer and comeback. I disagree with overly complicated rules even with Sealed. I have had the honor and privilege of introducing several new players in the past 2 months to Redemption with Starter Decks. (G&H and I&J) They loved it. A new player here has purchased the Flood-type Contender deck from YTG. He cross referenced it against your Nats deck and made additional purchases to get it as close to what you had built on his first go around. All this before EVER playing a single game of Redemption. His first game was today in a Local Sealed deck tournament. He is more excited now then before. I give credit where credit is due, JD. You have had an impact on Redemption. I have learned much from our online games and appreciate being taken to school.... every time.

Iím at the point where Iím willing to part with the cards because I have no incentive to play anything but fun online games on my phone where I have immediate access anywhere and a giant population

This is the most telling for me. I can see where Redemption may not fit in for you, but this does not take away what you have brought to Redemption in pushing the limits of what can or cannot be done. (CoL anyone?  :o )


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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2020, 12:40:49 AM »
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This thread is something else :o

OP all you have to do is post a picture or give some sort of list... no even an entire list of the whole collection and you'll get a half-decent offer. Shoot... post of a picture of at least the winner promos. Something!

Currently, you're trying to sell a car without telling someone what the model of the car is, what the millage is and if it even comes with any tires or a radio.
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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #25 on: January 05, 2020, 11:07:03 AM »
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Either way seems tlg should re-evaluate card values to give owners a more accurate idea of what their collections are worth ..
For sales TLG has always had a considerable built-in pricing premium over pure card value.* If you simply want a way to estimate what a collection is worth, look at the pricing on TLG's buy list.  For desirable cards that is typically 25-50% of the resale value (if a card is priced under $1 resale it is basically worth nothing).

*Because TLG is a premium re-seller. Service is always top notch. Cards are always available and of high quality. etc.

Maybe I should just settle for 300$ to be done with it thanks guys
Or take whiteandgold7's offer to sell your cards on consignment. Seriously, is any realistic amount of extra money really worth the aggravation this seems to be causing you?

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« Reply #26 on: January 05, 2020, 02:54:06 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: January 05, 2020, 05:42:51 PM »
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current bid: $300
consignment offer: $1000

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« Reply #28 on: January 05, 2020, 09:26:17 PM »
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Ehhh! Now that's something I'd bid on!

Except out I'm of the game... but if I was still in the game I would ;D
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I take it the 2016 and 2017 special Nats promos arenít among this collection?
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« Reply #30 on: January 06, 2020, 05:10:44 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2020, 01:31:55 AM »
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since everyone is whining

Not sure how you came to this conclusion , but it is not accurate.


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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2020, 09:06:25 AM »
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What happened to the heart behind Faith Unbowed ?

It got crucified with Christ and replaced by Doubt Disobedience among other things ..

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But hey thereís always jubilee 🥵 letís be meek! Who cares about Complainers anyway

Iím half way surprised I havenít already been banned again 😂

I speak the truth to get lashed.. itís a martyrs life for me. And still no app

Thank God for His Son to set us free above most from idolatry.. thatís where the heart behind Faith unbowed comes from 💖 notice how many times people say ďoh my godĒ about things? You are classically conditioned to receive a rush from breaking the laws of God as it divides you itís a literal fall like on a rollercoaster .. Iím sure people will discredit me for suggesting redemption or a card game is in any form idolatry .. isnít it amazing that even the cross has become idolized? Sounds like nehustan.. read John 3

By the way I only ever intended to redeem redemption but instead you got Lost Anointing and Faith anyway as a cloud card the next year in my absence when I was told Hope couldnít have a Hebrews 11:1 reference because no more cloud cards would be made.. Thank Christís Triumph for your forgiveness.

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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2020, 09:57:29 AM »
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I'm not really sure exactly all you're getting at because the grammar in your post is severely lacking while it seems you are intentionally making a lot of references to a plethora of different topics but mostly expressing your displeasure with decisions that were made previously.

You may want to consider waiting until spring time to go through with selling your entire collection.  I may be completely off base but depression often shows itself shortly after the return to standard time from daylight savings time as well as during winter months due to a lack of sunlight. 

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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2020, 11:50:22 AM »
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False attribution is also extremely convenient when dodging the truth which I posted and have been down voted for but I hardly expected much better from a community that banned me for less

At least I won sealed on live stream 2019 😝 maybe that is enough proof for the haters and Redoubters

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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2020, 04:08:59 PM »
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JD,

I want you to know that I care about you. I've been praying for you and the personal struggle you've been going through.  Honestly I believe its safe to say that the amount of personal turmoil in your life over the last 6 months has been enough to tear down the strongest person.  Please don't take this as criticism, I have been going through my own inner healing and part of that was taking a step back from redemption and other things in my life that aren't at the core of my life. 

Any of the people that want to say "Personal life shouldn't impact the way you interact with other people" take a step back and save that post for your own journey.  The stress and anguish JD has had to walk through is incredible and he needs prayer support and love; not a bashing.  This thread is a byproduct of pain.

That said, JD i do think the healthiest thing for you to do with redemption is put it away.  I love you man and I don't want to see more anguish come your way over redemption.  I wish I had 700 dollars and Id send it to you today for the cards just to help you be able to walk away. 

Sincerely praying for you my friend.  Everyone else take it easy for the sake of a deeply wounded and hurting brother in Christ. 
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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2020, 04:37:32 PM »
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$325, and $25 extra to go towards shipping. I donít need the folders or pages.
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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2020, 07:55:33 PM »
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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2020, 08:35:53 PM »
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Current bid: $375

JD would you mind posting the bids public so we are all on the same page, please?
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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #39 on: January 09, 2020, 04:24:16 PM »
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Anyone else making any more bids? I'm about ready to send this stuff off..

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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #40 on: January 09, 2020, 05:17:03 PM »
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$375 flunked out so bid is back to 325$ for the watchman.. going once..

keep in mind i am not looking to be nickeled and dimed over this collection at a 10% valuation for specific cards which may or may not be there.. this is a $4500 you are purchasing for a BARGAIN price.. with an ipad..
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current bid $325 and you pay for shipping going to the watchman

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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2020, 05:35:36 PM »
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current bid $400

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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #42 on: January 09, 2020, 06:26:29 PM »
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$400 shipped is my bid as karius posted before.
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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2020, 09:41:44 AM »
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Alright well I think Iím gonna go ahead and call it at $400 unless anyone else wants to make a bid I wonít be able to ship it out until Monday ..

FYI I paid 700$ for this complete collection prior to adding POC, 2019 promos, and nationals winner cards from 1st place sealed and 3rd place t12p and it DIDNT come with an iPad so whoever buys it is getting a great deal ..

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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2020, 06:14:23 PM »
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going once, going twice..

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Re: Selling entire collection 700$
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2020, 08:02:15 PM »
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Selling to Silenced Matrix for a whopping total of $400 ..