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A couple of questions about tournament play.
« on: March 11, 2010, 08:36:57 AM »
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1.Is a round robin tournament legal for an official cactus tournament or does it always have to be swiss?  I went to a tournament where they did sealed deck as a round robin and instead of allocating a specific time slot for it,you just did your games when you got time inbetween the other categories.  I liked that system but I want to  know if it would be legal to do at a state level tournament.

2. I cannot find how to score forfeits.  Unfortunately this has come up at some tournaments here recently.  I know a bye is 3 and a LS score of 0 but how do we score forfeits?  is it the same for the winner as a bye?
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Re: A couple of questions about tournament play.
« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 09:01:11 AM »
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1.Is a round robin tournament legal for an official cactus tournament or does it always have to be swiss?  I went to a tournament where they did sealed deck as a round robin and instead of allocating a specific time slot for it,you just did your games when you got time inbetween the other categories.  I liked that system but I want to  know if it would be legal to do at a state level tournament.
From the Tournament Guide, "State tournaments must be a Swiss-style tournament with time limits." (I am not exactly sure why that is.) Since it does not state that for local and district tournaments, I assume locals and districts are allowed to run non Swiss tournaments.

On the bright side, however, if you have schedule enough rounds the only possible difference between Swiss and round robin is the order in which players face each other. Round robin leaves that question open while Swiss forces you to pair opponents with similar scores.

I can't find anything in the official documentation that states you must run the rounds consecutively, so it appears you could run individual games between other events.

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2. I cannot find how to score forfeits.  Unfortunately this has come up at some tournaments here recently.  I know a bye is 3 and a LS score of 0 but how do we score forfeits?  is it the same for the winner as a bye?

Once again, from the Tournament Guide, "Forfeitures: If a player forfeits a game that player’s game score shall be 0, lost soul score –5. A player who wins as a result of the opponent’s forfeit shall receive a game score of 3, lost soul score 0."

I don't really understand why I should be penalized (and a 0 LS differential is a penalty) if my opponent forfeits, but there it is.

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Re: A couple of questions about tournament play.
« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 09:07:21 AM »
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I agree.  I feel that a Forfeit should be AT MINIMUM a score of 3 and a LS differential of 1 since you would have at least won by 1 LS if the game were played for a win.  Having someone bail on me and giving me the win but limiting my first tiebreaking score leaves a REAL bad taste in my mouth.  It recenly cost me a placing at a tournament I went to.

I like your idea of "scheduling" enough "swiss style" rounds so that every one plays anyway.  The tournament will be held over two days so everyone should be able to get their games in with no problem.
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Re: A couple of questions about tournament play.
« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 01:42:48 PM »
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You could always call it Swiss style, as long as everyone gets their games in it shouldn't matter!   ;)

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Re: A couple of questions about tournament play.
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2010, 12:14:34 AM »
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I played sealed in a round robin style and it was great. It felt like ironman at NATS. I wouls suggest it to anyone and look foward to playing this way again.
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