Author Topic: Transformers: Midnight Release (Read 19594 times)

DaClock · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2009, 10:31:21 AM »

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Quote from: sk on June 24, 2009, 10:01:37 PM
Quote from: crustpope on June 24, 2009, 05:37:13 PM
Ironically, the porn blocker on my laptop will not let me access that link Prof. I guess the review itself is too pornographic for me to look at. I cant believe you would post that smut on the redemption boards

Yeah, one of their screenshots shows way too much skin. Kinda felt like a Bill O'Reilly moment: "Images too shocking for television... we'll show them to you next..."

Ha, ha, That is a good one. although to be fair all the newsies to that. Its insane. "this next clip is to violent to show on television. But we will show it to you after this break."

So, is there actually nudity in this movie? I cant really get a lear read on it from the posts.

There isn't any rated-R nudity. There is one close shot of a guy in a thong and lots of scantily clad women.

CMO Falcon · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2009, 11:49:01 AM »

No, there is no actual human nudity. There is a scene of decepticon nudity however.

Colin Michael · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2009, 11:58:53 AM »

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The chick in that movie is so gross looking. I don't know who in their right mind would think that she was attractive.

Scratch that. I Google image searched her; apparently she just wasn't attractive in the first movie.

The Schaef · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2009, 08:51:19 PM »

Quote from: Colin Michael on June 25, 2009, 11:58:53 AM

Was the acting as bad as in the first movie?

You do know it's a Michael Bay movie, right?

Master KChief · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2009, 08:56:23 PM »

who cares about the acting...just enjoy all the cool explosions

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2009, 09:02:41 PM »

I heard this movie had like the biggest recorded explosion ever on television or something like that.

Hedgehogman · « **Reply #31 on:** June 25, 2009, 09:18:34 PM »

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Also, as for the whole "exposing" your kids thing, I'm shocked that you'd let your children go to school and take an anatomy class. Seriously.

This ^. I do not understand the whole deal with Christians freaking out about the human body being shown in a movie. As if viewing the human anatomy that God made is somehow harmful. $:-\$ Of course I'm not advocating pornography, but seriously, freaking out about a butt or a nipple is just retarded.

I saw the movie last night, and I thought it was even better than the first one. They focused a whole lot more on the Autobots and Decepticons this time, rather than the humans, and the film was better for it. My only complaint is that the Dinobots weren't in it.

Master KChief · « **Reply #32 on:** June 25, 2009, 10:29:43 PM »

but it had a pretender (alice) and a constructicon in it...way awesome!

Colin Michael · « **Reply #33 on:** June 25, 2009, 11:30:59 PM »

Quote from: Hedgehogman on June 25, 2009, 09:18:34 PM

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Also, as for the whole "exposing" your kids thing, I'm shocked that you'd let your children go to school and take an anatomy class. Seriously.

This ^. I do not understand the whole deal with Christians freaking out about the human body being shown in a movie. As if viewing the human anatomy that God made is somehow harmful. $:-\$ Of course I'm not advocating pornography, but seriously, freaking out about a butt or a nipple is just retarded.

I saw the movie last night, and I thought it was even better than the first one. They focused a whole lot more on the Autobots and Decepticons this time, rather than the humans, and the film was better for it. My only complaint is that the Dinobots weren't in it.

Admiring an attractive body in art or whatnot is a lot easier in a culture that isn't centered around having sex.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #34 on:** June 25, 2009, 11:54:23 PM »

I agree with your prmise Lawful Dog, FWIW.

lightningninja · « **Reply #35 on:** June 26, 2009, 03:03:47 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on June 24, 2009, 07:03:39 PM

i seriously LAWLED at the christian spotlight review. moral rating VERY OFFENSIVE??? please. heavy violence? they're MACHINES shooting each other for crying out loud. sex/nudity HEAVY??? did the reviewer actually SEE the movie? maybe there were sexual overtones, but certainly no sex or nudity whatsoever. sometimes christians are overly critical about the simplest things...making mountains out of mole hills. its a harmless movie...plenty of robots, plenty of fast cool cars, and plenty of michael bay-esque explosions. its a great movie for casual viewers and die-hard fans alike.

I agree half.

1. Yes, they are too sensitive. Comparing escargo to bird poop is now under negative comments? Are you kidding me...?

2. I also disagree. There was definitely sex and sexual connotations. Calling someone a very negative name for a wimp, one of the girls laying on the main actor, super close shot of Megan Foxx in super small shorts, lots of cleavage... it wasn't a completely family friendly movie. I think you have to admit that.

3. Don't keep posting links to plugg-in. Basically, you now just saw and heard everything bad in the movie, so why not see it? $:-\$ It tells you the exact lines, what they're about, so now you've just been succummed to the very things you were reading the review to see if you the movie had. For example, if "year one" wasn't imo so blasphemous, I would see it because plug in already told me every exact line that was inappropriate. Anyone else think that this kinda defeats the purpose?

sk · « **Reply #36 on:** June 26, 2009, 07:31:44 AM »

I find a big difference between reading something and seeing it. If Song of Solomon was a movie, I would be thinking far different things watching it than what I do reading the scripture.

One of the reasons I use Screenit is the summary chart at the top of the page. If I see "heavy" or "extreme" in a category that bothers me, I don't even need to read the detailed review.

The Schaef · « **Reply #37 on:** June 26, 2009, 08:06:18 AM »

Quote from: lightningninja on June 26, 2009, 03:03:47 AM

3. Don't keep posting links to plugg-in. Basically, you now just saw and heard everything bad in the movie, so why not see it? $:-\$ It tells you the exact lines, what they're about, so now you've just been succummed to the very things you were reading the review to see if you the movie had.

First of all, it's not the same thing, and I think you know it's not the same thing. Second of all, the point of sites like that are for parents to be made aware of the content of a movie so they can make an informed decision about what they are going to allow their children to see.

Which do you think is a better overall solution: for a parent to see this site, say "eh, those things aren't a big deal to me" and allow their child to see it, or for a parent to want to raise a child a certain way, not be aware of those things, and wind up in the theater with their child regretting the thirty bucks they just dropped on tickets?

Master KChief · « **Reply #38 on:** June 26, 2009, 12:33:16 PM »

most of these site reviews are purely subjective and based on the opinion of the reviewer. what might be negative to one person may not be to another. while these site reviews are a good starting point in judging whether you or your children should see the movie or not, it is by no means the end-all-be-all to movie reviews. i say dont knock it til you try it...live and learn.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #39 on:** June 26, 2009, 01:06:59 PM »

You found Year One blasphemous? Maybe offensive, but blasphemous? I saw it, and at it's worst it's just a buddy comedy set in the backdrop of various tales of how the early world went combined into one. There were some times were I was like "ehh, was that really needed?" but I certainly didn't find it blasphemous.

Colin Michael · « **Reply #40 on:** June 26, 2009, 01:13:03 PM »

For people with hemophobia (like me), I could see the merit of checking out such reviews.

sk · « **Reply #41 on:** June 26, 2009, 01:59:59 PM »

Quote from: Janissary on June 26, 2009, 01:06:59 PM

You found Year One blasphemous? Maybe offensive, but blasphemous? I saw it, and at it's worst it's just a buddy comedy set in the backdrop of various tales of how the early world went combined into one. There were some times were I was like "ehh, was that really needed?" but I certainly didn't find it blasphemous.

I find it blasphemous in the same way that Evan Almighty was blasphemous: both contain multiple oral blasphemies ("Oh my...", etc), a mocking of scripture, the creation of an idol to replace the true God, and a lack of reverence for the God they are mocking. That's exactly the kind of stuff that "blasphemy" is.

And then there's the whole "not funny" thing...

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #42 on:** June 26, 2009, 02:11:57 PM »

I was more offended by some of the sexual jokes than any of the mockery of god(s). I mean, let's not pretend they mocked just our God. They mocked anything out there basically, but at the same time, the story seemed to show the existance of a god. There's a discussion about ahtiesm in it that is later rebutted by the movie's events.

You not finding it funny is a perfectly fine reason to not like it/see it. I personally find Michael Cera the funniest person alive, so I went and saw it. I was dissapointed they had to stoop to some levels and even more disapointed that some of the mythology was inaccurate (Sargon, King of Sodom, and Lilith, the Daughter of Adam, are both combinations of various characters from through mythology), but overall, I can appreciate the movie for what it is. It's a buddy comedy set within a created time and land by people who are willing to toss some vain uses of God's name. My humor found most of the movie to be funny as a whole.

I don't really see how they mocked scripture as much as they synthesized it. If you want to call that mocking, then we're just using different definitions. But if I were to attack the mythology of the movie, I'd attack how they blended it all together, making it seem like there's many right ways.

And let's face it, the circumsion sequence is one of the most realistic non-Jewish/Christian reactions I have ever seen. When questioned about going to Sodom, which Abraham said was about to be destroyed, by Michael Cera, Jack Black essentially says "Your going to listen to a man who was told by God to cut of his foreskin?" I'm sure that was the reaction to Israel by many surrounding nations. Face it, it sounds ridiculous.

Ironica · « **Reply #43 on:** June 26, 2009, 03:14:34 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on June 26, 2009, 12:33:16 PM

i say dont knock it til you try it...live and learn.

That's right everyone. Don't knock porn until you watch it. Don't knock Meth until you try it. Don't knock Satanism until you try it. Don't trust others who try to warn you of the harmful affects. Harm yourself first and then learn instead of learning from others who have been through those things. [/sarcasm]

As per pluggedinonline, I usually don't read the review part of the artical (which is a matter of opinion). The main thing I focus on is the content (which is not a matter of opinion but of fact). I used to go to screenit but I stopped when they wanted me to pay for subscriptions (I was young and not working at the time and by the time I started being more interested again in the content, pluggedinonline was already up).

As per the reading/seeing debate, understand that there is a HUGE difference between some one quickly describing it and some one describing it in detail (e.g. Michael Criton's "Disclosure"). Also, if you don't see that stuff in the first place, the images won't pop up in your mind when you read it.

lightningninja · « **Reply #44 on:** June 26, 2009, 08:02:31 PM »

Quote from: The Schaef on June 26, 2009, 08:06:18 AM

Quote from: lightningninja on June 26, 2009, 03:03:47 AM
3. Don't keep posting links to plugg-in. Basically, you now just saw and heard everything bad in the movie, so why not see it? $:-\$ It tells you the exact lines, what they're about, so now you've just been succummed to the very things you were reading the review to see if you the movie had.

First of all, it's not the same thing, and I think you know it's not the same thing. Second of all, the point of sites like that are for parents to be made aware of the content of a movie so they can make an informed decision about what they are going to allow their children to see.

Which do you think is a better overall solution: for a parent to see this site, say "eh, those things aren't a big deal to me" and allow their child to see it, or for a parent to want to raise a child a certain way, not be aware of those things, and wind up in the theater with their child regretting the thirty bucks they just dropped on tickets?

I understand that Scheaf. I'm just saying that we should be careful the plug in reviews we reference, for example some of the year one references were kind of messed up and so I shouldn't have read the reviews since the movie itself was pretty sexual (so I heard). That's all I'm saying.

Second, to the blasphemy thing, I think that mocking many Biblical stories is considered blasphemy. If not, what is blasphemy? If not blasphemy, it's definitely disrespectful to God. They make Abraham a non-Christian who parties in Sodom, mixed up facts, made jokes about Cain killing Abel, and many other things that completely put a joking and sexual spin on God's reverent word.

But enough arguing, this was not the right thread for this. It was to see if anyone liked the movie, and I did.

The Schaef · « **Reply #45 on:** June 26, 2009, 11:32:31 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on June 26, 2009, 12:33:16 PM

most of these site reviews are purely subjective and based on the opinion of the reviewer. what might be negative to one person may not be to another.

Isn't that the exact reason why they list the specific content in the films that qualifies as being sexual/violent/offensive in nature? In order to make an OBjective presentation from which the viewer can draw their own conclusions about whether to see the film? You can say that about the critical portion of the review, maybe, but the fact that the content is listed specifically puts the power in the hands of the readers.

Master KChief · « **Reply #46 on:** June 26, 2009, 11:45:02 PM »

Quote from: Ironica on June 26, 2009, 03:14:34 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on June 26, 2009, 12:33:16 PM
i say dont knock it til you try it...live and learn.

That's right everyone. Don't knock porn until you watch it. Don't knock Meth until you try it. Don't knock Satanism until you try it. Don't trust others who try to warn you of the harmful affects. Harm yourself first and then learn instead of learning from others who have been through those things. [/sarcasm]

theres a big difference between a movie about cars that transform into robots and porn, meth, satanism, etc. some of these are common sense...but if you're lacking that, maybe you really should try some of those things.

The Schaef · « **Reply #47 on:** June 26, 2009, 11:52:49 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on June 26, 2009, 11:45:02 PM

theres a big difference between a movie about cars that transform into robots and porn, meth, satanism, etc. some of these are common sense...but if you're lacking that, maybe you really should try some of those things.

That might be true if the objection was about cars transforming into robots. But of course, you're now asking people to exercise common sense while simultaneously suggesting they NOT inform themselves before making the decision.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #48 on:** June 26, 2009, 11:56:31 PM »

Abraham was very much a Hebraic person in the movie. Isaac was more of a mischevious kid in it, so pick your person right. You should be mad about Litlith being Adam's daughter and being a lesbian, not about Abraham.

Master KChief · « **Reply #49 on:** June 27, 2009, 12:51:05 AM »

Quote from: The Schaef on June 26, 2009, 11:52:49 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on June 26, 2009, 11:45:02 PM
theres a big difference between a movie about cars that transform into robots and porn, meth, satanism, etc. some of these are common sense...but if you're lacking that, maybe you really should try some of those things.
But of course, you're now asking people to exercise common sense while simultaneously suggesting they NOT inform themselves before making the decision.

when did i ever say this? in fact, i encouraged the exact opposite. these reviews are great as a bit of guidance, but thats as far as they go. its up to the reader to decide for themselves. whether a person decides to see/not see the movie based on a review, common sense, past experience, etc is their decision alone and should be respected.

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