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I'm glad that you're at least shooting for consistency, Mark.
if you're worried about your kids thinking the series is real, well then they're probably too young for it to begin with.
Am I right in assuming that every Christian opposed to Harry Potter and "magic" in general believes that the Devil and Demons are actually performing "false miracles" and magic today?
Quote from: Chronic Apathy on December 29, 2011, 01:36:24 PMI'm glad that you're at least shooting for consistency, Mark. I'm always striving for consistency, not just in movie watching decisions, but in all aspects of life. My motto for life is "Make God happy!", and I want my whole life to do that Quote from: Chronic Apathy on December 29, 2011, 01:36:24 PMif you're worried about your kids thinking the series is real, well then they're probably too young for it to begin with.This makes me think of that Superbowl commercial with the little kid who tries to use his Darth Vader powers to start his dad's car. I agree with you that different age kids (and different kids in general) will find it more or less difficult to separate fiction from reality. The problem though is knowing when a kid thinks they are ready to tell the difference, and when they really are. Young people are notorious for thinking that stuff doesn't affect them when in reality it still does quite a lot.Quote from: stefferweffer on December 29, 2011, 01:41:45 PMAm I right in assuming that every Christian opposed to Harry Potter and "magic" in general believes that the Devil and Demons are actually performing "false miracles" and magic today?I think that the Devil and Demons powers are quite a bit more limited than God's are of course. And I think that most "magic" seen today is simply illusions and showmanship used for entertainment of to con people for more nefarious purposes. However, I also believe that there are some times when supernatural events occur that do not come from God. The Bible talks about demon-possessed people being super strong, or throwing themselves into fires. It also talks about Satan doing some pretty supernaturally bad stuff to Job. I don't think it is unreasonable to believe that these things sometimes still happen. I have also heard stories about Ouija boards that actually gave answers that would have been impossible to know. I think that to completely blow off the evil side of the supernatural is a dangerous worldview (of course I also think it is dangerous to live in fear of it or to be overly preoccupied with it).
Most People Call "God Magic", "Miracles", probably to separate it from more dark "magics", but what does it matter what you call it? it is what it is No matter what you call it.
Yes, but I'm sure you'd agree that both in the examples of Job and demon possession, Satan had to have God's "permission" to do those things, or at least be allowed to do it.
My question is if you believe that God allows the devil and demons to let their servants perform truly supernatural signs/miracles so that they may attract more followers.
And if I went to that medium, and witnessed this, why would I believe the bible instead?
Harry Potter does make a distinction by labeling bad magic as the Dark Arts and not only doesn't glorify the latter, but teaches a class in Hogwartz on how to defend yourself against the Dark Arts.
In other words, rather than say "the good and evil magic have the same source," say "magic in Harry Potter has no source."
Quote from: Minister Polarius on December 29, 2011, 05:41:19 PMIn other words, rather than say "the good and evil magic have the same source," say "magic in Harry Potter has no source."That is really the same thing from my perspective though. Whether "good magic" and "evil magic" come from the same source, or from no source at all, either way they do NOT come from DIFFERENT sources. And therefore it is different from the Biblical worldview in my opinion.As I was praying about this last night, God pointed out that I was making this too complicated. He said, that it really came down to something simple. Harry Potter is a witch. The Bible says to kill witches* The hero of a book/movie shouldn't be a witch.* I'm not saying that we should kill all witches today, but rather that it is a clear message of God's feelings on the issue.
It sure sounds to me, based on God's response to you, that every Christian watching Harry Potter is in sin. This is the danger of saying things like "He told me", isn't it? How/why would His answer be different for different people?
Quote from: stefferweffer on December 30, 2011, 11:01:42 AMIt sure sounds to me, based on God's response to you, that every Christian watching Harry Potter is in sin. This is the danger of saying things like "He told me", isn't it? How/why would His answer be different for different people?I'm not claiming that it is a sin to watch Harry Potter. However, based on my conversation with God, I am saying that it would be a sin for ME to watch Harry Potter. I don't think there's any danger there, as it won't hurt me to miss out on watching that movie.As for why God would tell other people that it's OK to watch a movie with a witch as a hero, I really can't explain that. The Bible does seem pretty clear about God's feelings on witchcraft, and God does NOT contradict Himself. But if my fellow Christians are sure that God has told them it is OK, then I'll leave that up to them and God.
Witch is female. Harry Is a Wizard.
I will conclude my thoughts on this matter with "This is stupid" and "Thank God I'm agnostic and can make rational decisions for myself without having to bother a higher power who has more important things to attend to"
The bottom line here is that you presented with a TON of evidence that there is nothing wrong with a WORK OF PURE FICTION and still chose to ban it.
you as an adult don't feel yourself capable of differentiating enough to read it yourself is kind of shocking to me.
Why are all other inborn talents inherently from God but this one isn't?
What is this "Harry Potter" that you speak of?
My parents wont let me read it still.