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Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« on: June 25, 2011, 02:33:39 PM »
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If you saw my other thread about theology, you know I watched the Angel Wars Guardian Force episodes recently, so here are some card ideas from the second and third episodes (since the real Angel Wars set pretty much covered episode 1, lol).


Possible battle winner for angel offenses or demon defenses alone, otherwise maybe you get a crazy angel vs demon battle if they're fighting each other.


Questionable theological implications aside (at least if used as an evil enhancement), it fits the spirit of the picture and what happened in the movie (substituting angels for humans since converting angels is even less okay, lol), and I do think that people in real life can end up turning away (sometimes due to pride, for example) from Christ. So, yeah.


The good version of Demonic Influence.


My original idea was too much like Protection of Angels, so this was my backup idea. Not sure about it, though. :S


Figured this could be used after Jordan Interrupted and the like to help teal and silver.


Random idea I had. If your opponent is anti-banding, throw your panic demon on your human to protect them. If they're FBTN, throw KoT on a human.


I made it rainbow and "if used by a demon" so that any demon could use it in case you don't have Chamber of Demons out. I think it's balanced as a rainbow since non-demons will only get 2/4 out of it.


I thought of this as a way to make "place on a hero" cards more useful, and it's half black so Morg can use it, again, if you don't have Chamber of Demons in territory (or it's being negated).


I was frustrated that the demon enhancements I was making couldn't be used by Morg/Morgan (the main antagonist from AW) so I made this. Not sure if I put too many things on it or not, I added the cannot be ignored ability late in creation (*teehee*).


At the risk of it getting shuffled or discarded after you've rescued it one or more times (like the 2- and 3-liner when half rescued), you can leave this in opponent's territory (presumably so you have access to it again next turn) in order to try and rescue additional Souls.
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2011, 02:50:03 PM »
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I like the lost Souls... but I can imagine how that would be very frustrating if it was shuffled or buried  :D
I think two angels on ensnared might be a little OPed. Maybe just one?
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2011, 02:53:34 PM »
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I like the lost Souls... but I can imagine how that would be very frustrating if it was shuffled or buried  :D
I think two angels on ensnared might be a little OPed. Maybe just one?
Haha, indeed. I originally was going to make the "worth 1+ Redeemed Souls" an identifier and make the ability something that protected it from effect if it had been rescued at least once, but every way I tried it was weird, so I ended up with this version.
I thought about that, but decided I was okay with the power. If others agree I'm more than willing to power it down.

Thanks for the comments. ^_^

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #3 on: June 25, 2011, 02:58:54 PM »
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No Que reprint?

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« Reply #4 on: June 25, 2011, 03:00:57 PM »
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No Que reprint?
Other than changing his ability (and making him orange), I couldn't make him any better with the current restrictions in place.
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #5 on: June 25, 2011, 03:06:48 PM »
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I really like the good/evil concept.  I'd never use Lost Souls, to easy to get rid of.  (A simple burial decreases my score by 2?  I don't think so.)  What would be really interesting would be if your protected it from shuffle.

Heavenly Support is OP'd.  Can't you see the problems we're having with Thad?  This just adds even more power to it (and stan's seat can't do anything).  Plus, I can T2 it up with MASSIVE protected banding chains.  Yeah.
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« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2011, 03:13:53 PM »
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I really like the good/evil concept.  I'd never use Lost Souls, to easy to get rid of.  (A simple burial decreases my score by 2?  I don't think so.)  What would be really interesting would be if your protected it from shuffle.
Thanks! I really like that concept, too, so I was really excited when Gabe's photoshop template had dual enhancements in it. :D As for the Lost Soul, I was afraid of that. As I noted above, I tried to work some protection in. I'll see if I can't squeeze at least shuffle protection in, lol.

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Heavenly Support is OP'd.  Can't you see the problems we're having with Thad?  This just adds even more power to it (and stan's seat can't do anything).  Plus, I can T2 it up with MASSIVE protected banding chains.  Yeah.
I don't know that anyone splashes angels in with Thadciples, but I suppose this would make them want to, lol. Any suggestions for helping with that? Also, what does this add to Thad that he doesn't already have (besides Stan's Seat immunity)? I mean, the angel on the human isn't protected from anything by HS, so you could just CM (or any other hero removal) that and then the human isn't protected anymore.
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« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2011, 04:08:06 PM »
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The problem with HS isn't Thad, it's that I can make any human Hero into a super-Thad.
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« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2011, 04:13:06 PM »
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The problem with HS isn't Thad, it's that I can make any human Hero into a super-Thad.
The super-Thad is what I don't agree with, though. Mine doesn't protect from numbers (the human can still die by losing the battle), doesn't protect anything except that human (and their enhancements, per the recent ruling), can be stopped with hero destruction (which you can't use on a protected Thad), and is useless against a demon defense. How exactly is it worse than Thad?

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« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2011, 04:15:29 PM »
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You're right, I was thinking of the wrong thing.  It's still powerful.
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« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2011, 04:21:11 PM »
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You're right, I was thinking of the wrong thing.  It's still powerful.
So is AoCP. ;)

The question is: Is it too powerful?

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« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2011, 04:39:31 PM »
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Looking back, no.  A huge plus for it is that it works with silver's current position as a support brigade.
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2011, 10:54:54 PM »
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More comments welcome and appreciated. ^_^

Looking back, no.  A huge plus for it is that it works with silver's current position as a support brigade.
That's what I was going for, so I'm pleased that I succeeded. :D

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2011, 11:09:06 PM »
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Read it more closely.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2011, 11:22:01 PM »
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I caught my mistake and deleted it. Sorry.

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« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2011, 11:44:57 PM »
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I caught my mistake and deleted it. Sorry.
I missed it, what happened? lol

Read it more closely.
I can usually count on you finding all the OP combos I missed, anything coming to mind? :P
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2011, 12:22:10 AM »
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I was suprised not to find lots of biased posts saying that angel wars is/was AWFUL!!!
(For the record I love the cards, great job on the Illistrations, they fit well.)
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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2011, 12:29:10 AM »
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Angel wars is/was AWFUL.

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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2011, 12:35:12 AM »
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I was suprised not to find lots of biased posts saying that angel wars is/was AWFUL!!!
(For the record I love the cards, great job on the Illistrations, they fit well.)
Haha, thanks! Some of them I had to keep moving back in the timeline to get just the right shot (like for Ensnared and Fatal Blow), and I wish the people were a little less blurry in Peace or Pride, but overall I'm happy with the pics. Glad you like them. ^_^

Angel wars is/was AWFUL.
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« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2011, 09:39:36 AM »
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I was suprised not to find lots of biased posts saying that angel wars is/was AWFUL!!!
(For the record I love the cards, great job on the Illistrations, they fit well.)
Well, it was.  Another example of a sub-par product that was pushed to market because it's "Christian."
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« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2011, 10:53:18 AM »
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Let's keep this about the cards.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2011, 01:28:25 PM »
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Its an interesting idea to have good and evil cards

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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2011, 03:14:07 PM »
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Its an interesting idea to have good and evil cards
I agree. I love (the) Philosophy (card), so when I saw the frame in the template I just HAD to make some. :P

Let's keep this about the cards.
Still hoping you'll post comments. ;)

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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2011, 06:14:26 PM »
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I don't think "regardless of protection" and "cannot be N/I" should ever appear on the same card. All in all, most of these are OP. I really like Fatal Blow, and I really like the idea of the lost souls card, but all these incredible battle winners need their "cannot be"s taken off IMO.
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2011, 06:47:56 PM »
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I,FOR ONE actually enjoyed the 3 angel wars guardian force episodes and the Messengers Movie , as well as the cards.In addition, i have no doubt that playgroup n00bs have fun with the angel wars cards,Furthermore the simplistic Angel Wars cards are easy to use to explain concepts to new playersEven if the majority of the cards in the set were useless, actual-play-wise


Aside from that I Love the cards and most of them introduce Fun (if OP'd) Concept(s)
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