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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2011, 07:51:11 PM »
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Its an interesting idea to have good and evil cards
Knowing the playtesters, I say the next set might be pretty interesting.
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2011, 07:58:09 PM »
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I don't think "regardless of protection" and "cannot be N/I" should ever appear on the same card. All in all, most of these are OP. I really like Fatal Blow, and I really like the idea of the lost souls card, but all these incredible battle winners need their "cannot be"s taken off IMO.
In the case of Angels & Demons, the regardless of protection is so people like Asahel don't get to stick around. I could remove the CBN if that makes it OP.

As to Peace or Pride, I think silver needs more CBN battle-winners, so that's why I gave it CBN. Again, I can remove it to balance if necessary.

Heavenly Shield is only CBN versus demons, and the regardless of protection balances the cost (removing an angel from the game).

Urgent Duties Ahead isn't a battle-winner, per se, I just generally throw CBI on abilities I make that involve revealing/searching (because I find it weird when you negate a search but still shuffle the deck).

I could totally remove the CBN from Ensnared, I threw it on there to make the ability longer, actually, lol.

I like Fatal Blow, too, thanks! :D

I really like the idea of the Lost Souls, too, I'm just afraid no one would actually use the ability since it's so easy nowadays to get rid of/shuffle/exchange Souls.

Thanks for the comments. ^_^

Its an interesting idea to have good and evil cards
Knowing the playtesters, I say the next set might be pretty interesting.
Indeed. ;)
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2011, 10:39:53 PM »
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I would change the CBN to "CBI by a character ability" on Angels and Demons just because of the FbtN on both sides. Peace or Pride and Ensnared can just lose the CBN altogether. Heavenly shield can keep the "CBN by a demon", but I would take off the "regardless of protection," since even if it affects angels, the removal of angels is a cost on that ability, meaning if it's protected, then no discard happens anyway; I might also have it remove a unique angel, just to keep the cost high for such a powerful ability.

I don't think angels really need CBN enhancements that bad, since they have Michael + Angel's Sword and everyone uses that anyway.
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2011, 01:52:45 PM »
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Silver is a FBTN brigade, CBN is already more powerful then say, purple or white.  (Though Gathering Michael to TSA/Captain is FUN).
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2011, 03:16:31 PM »
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Alright, I'm planning to update most of the cards today (requires specific effort since I have to edit the psd files, lol). Any last minute suggestions (BubbleBoy's are probably what I'm mostly going to go with at this point) would be splendid, otherwise I'll update again once I've finished and posted the new versions.

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #30 on: June 27, 2011, 03:25:55 PM »
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One other suggestion is that you change the numbers on a few of these. Generally, the abilities on evil enhancements add up to no more than 6. Angels and Demons can probably stay the same, but Fatal Blow and Ensnared should be reduced.
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set
« Reply #31 on: June 27, 2011, 03:55:13 PM »
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One other suggestion is that you change the numbers on a few of these. Generally, the abilities on evil enhancements add up to no more than 6. Angels and Demons can probably stay the same, but Fatal Blow and Ensnared should be reduced.
Ensnared is 2/4, so that's already 6, lol. Fatal Blow was meant to be 1/5, so good eye catching that one. ^_^

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #32 on: June 27, 2011, 05:09:31 PM »
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UPDATE BUMP!

Things changed:
-Fixed the numbers on Fatal Blow.
-Removed CBN from Ensnared.
-Changed CBN on Angels & Demons to only be from character abilities.
-Centered ability text on Chamber of Demons (I'm OCD about stuff like that, lol)
-Added "Protected from shuffle" to the Lost Souls card.
-Reworked Peace or Pride: removed the CBN and added an instead that the converted character's owner can choose to use.

Things not changed:
-I left Heavenly Shield the same. Regardless of protection doesn't really mean that much more than a discard by itself, and demons are very good about getting around/recovering from discard (WS, much?) not to mention insteads are more and more popular these days. This leaves it as an interesting and powerful combo with Angels & Demons (if used on offense), but since they are each limited to 1 per deck (in both types) I think the combo is not too powerful.

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #33 on: June 27, 2011, 06:04:08 PM »
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For Heavily Shielded does it have to be the angel in battle or can it be and thing.

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #34 on: June 27, 2011, 06:18:42 PM »
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For Heavily Shielded does it have to be the angel in battle or can it be and thing.
As long as you own and control the angel, it can be anywhere in play.

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #35 on: June 28, 2011, 08:23:06 PM »
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Why does a shield have a high offense while a fatal blow has a high defense?

Also, the split cards should have slightly lower numbers on the evil side to fit the thematic element.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #36 on: June 28, 2011, 09:26:34 PM »
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Why does a shield have a high offense while a fatal blow has a high defense?

Also, the split cards should have slightly lower numbers on the evil side to fit the thematic element.
Blame it on them being good vs evil cards. I guess I could swap them if you think it would fit better.

I could make A&D 0/6 and PoP 2/2 if that would help.

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #37 on: June 28, 2011, 10:07:41 PM »
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Those changes would polish off most of what little rough spots remain.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #38 on: June 28, 2011, 10:14:26 PM »
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What if you made Chamber of Demons a mirror image of Chamber of Angels, except the demons would go to the bottom?

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #39 on: June 28, 2011, 10:38:57 PM »
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Demons already have WS for discard recursion, so I figured the abilities I did give it would be more helpful. I'm always open to suggestions, though, so if others agree I can change it.

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #40 on: June 28, 2011, 10:42:59 PM »
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I like all of them.  It'd be cool to see them made!

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #41 on: June 28, 2011, 10:54:20 PM »
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I like all of them.  It'd be cool to see them made!

Carry On,

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #42 on: June 29, 2011, 12:30:28 AM »
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Awesome Job! Love the artwork.
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #43 on: June 29, 2011, 12:46:11 AM »
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Awesome Job! Love the artwork.
Thank'ee kindly. Having the movies made the artwork as simple as pause->print screen->paste->crop->insert as layer. :P

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #44 on: June 29, 2011, 02:57:21 PM »
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whatt templetes are you using?
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2011, 03:06:04 PM »
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I use Gabe's Photoshop template which can be found in this thread/post.

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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2011, 03:35:56 PM »
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got to have photo shop with that one though right? awesome cards by the way i like the art work.
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Re: Angel Wars 2 Mini-set (updated 6/27 16:00)
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2011, 03:37:20 PM »
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got to have photo shop with that one though right? awesome cards by the way i like the art work.
I think it may work with Gimp, but I use it with Photoshop CS5, yeah. Thanks! ^_^

 


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