Author Topic: Philistines vs. Babylonians Poll (Read 8231 times)

Jmbeers · « **on:** August 26, 2011, 12:24:08 AM »

I want to hear people’s arguments on why one is better than the other.

I'm fairly prepared for most to side with Goliath over Neb but still think its a debate worth hearing. Any credentials you can think of are viable.
Ex: Offensive pairing, strength of enhancements, skill required to play it, overall character strength, and yes Goliath compared to Nebuchadnezzar.

(Keep the new cards in mind as well)

lightningninja · « **Reply #1 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:33:42 AM »

Babylonians. They have a protection fortress and Nerg and Neb. Game over.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #2 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:34:30 AM »

King Belshazzar can search for Belshazzar's Banquet for name on name.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #3 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:36:26 AM »

Thanks to the resurgence of Red, Babs by far. Nebby's far better than Goliath, as he can get your defense out (and it's protected!)

Jmbeers · « **Reply #4 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:44:28 AM »

I've always thought that Babs were better so if they are why do so many people prefer Philistines?

SomeKittens · « **Reply #5 on:** August 26, 2011, 12:45:36 AM »

They're smaller, rely mainly on character abilities and faster. They also can recur their best characters multiple times.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #6 on:** August 26, 2011, 01:10:48 AM »

Philistines are better if you actually use a defense and not just 4-5 cards. Their characters are all auto-block potential, and they have tons of negates, not to mention Wrath of Satan.

Isildur · « **Reply #7 on:** August 26, 2011, 01:19:42 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on August 26, 2011, 01:10:48 AM

Philistines are better if you actually use a defense and not just 4-5 cards. Their characters are all auto-block potential, and they have tons of negates, not to mention Wrath of Satan.

The irony in this post is every one uses philies as a 4-5 card defense :p

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #8 on:** August 26, 2011, 01:22:08 AM »

Yeah, they're superior in small or medium numbers.

Captain Falcon · « **Reply #9 on:** August 26, 2011, 03:42:52 AM »

Iron Pan was a small step for redemption, one giant step for the Babs. I have to side with them. Phillies don't have mass capture ability like babs do. The aforementioned Nerg and Nebby are contributory to their superiority over the phillies.

Nameless · « **Reply #10 on:** August 26, 2011, 09:12:45 AM »

Babs for ever!

The M · « **Reply #11 on:** August 26, 2011, 09:38:46 AM »

We will have to see how it plays out. If I get consistently beaten by a Babylonian deck I will vote for them but my confidence is in Phillies now.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #12 on:** August 26, 2011, 01:47:08 PM »

Quote from: The M on August 26, 2011, 09:38:46 AM

We will have to see how it plays out. If I get consistently beaten by a Babylonian deck I will vote for them but my confidence is in Phillies now.

Keeping the new set in mind, I'd definitely go with Babylonians. There are too many CBN battle winners nowadays, and Philistines rely on negation too much. Babs now have three good init characters, and a reliable way to recur their best enhancement.

Neil Da BOMB J · « **Reply #13 on:** August 26, 2011, 02:30:36 PM »

I'd say big defense: defiantly babs, but with 9 or less cards, I'd have to side with Phillies.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #14 on:** August 26, 2011, 11:19:35 PM »

Babylonians are clearly stronger, but Philistines can get you more bang for your buck under 10 cards.

Andy Herzog · « **Reply #15 on:** March 27, 2012, 08:15:56 PM »

What does Nebuchadnezzar do

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2012, 09:07:42 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 26, 2011, 11:19:35 PM

Babylonians are clearly stronger, but Philistines can get you more bang for your buck under 10 cards.

I don't really think this is true. At the beginning of a game against anything but a Sam deck, sure, but Babylonians I think can fit in more effective blocks at 6+ cards. Unless you draw Outpost really early with Philistines, or otherwise get lucky with Armorbearer and/or Goliath, Philistines are pretty impotent after the first few turns.

Josh · « **Reply #17 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:26:44 PM »

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand cue the JSB23 Necropost card.

Smokey · « **Reply #18 on:** March 27, 2012, 10:56:08 PM »

Since Chronic already gave a legit response it might be interesting to have this discussion now that the new set is out.

MattsterNinja · « **Reply #19 on:** March 27, 2012, 11:04:13 PM »

Philistines have the big goliath/Lhami/Shaph combo, But there are a lot of good pink enhancements...Overall Philistines win.

Arrthoa · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2012, 12:25:51 AM »

Quote from: MattsterNinja on March 27, 2012, 11:04:13 PM

Philistines have the big goliath/Lhami/Shaph combo, But there are a lot of good pink enhancements...Overall Philistines win.

Not if you playe with the Promo Goliath cause he stops all banding. Phillies are good when it comes to stoping Genesis and Prophets from my experiance. Babylonians are good with the rest. Overal all Babylonians when

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2012, 01:17:49 AM »

Quote from: Smokey on March 27, 2012, 10:56:08 PM

Since Chronic already gave a legit response it might be interesting to have this discussion now that the new set is out.

I actually didn't realize this topic was from so long ago. Whoops, haha.

celeres21 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 28, 2012, 05:50:06 AM »

I would have to go with phillies here...not only do they have a protect fortress that holds Altar of Dagan, they have Philistine Priests, one of the most underrated philistine cards. I also think that black is stronger as a defense than crimson, with plenty of discard, interrupts, and captures(although crimson has them beat as far as captures). They also have Fallen Warrior and Philistine Outpost...if your characters die, you can choose which one is needed for the current battle. Even with red making a comeback, no one really plays those that remove and discard philistines, and if they do, Temple of Dagon protects them. Philistines all they way!

Arrthoa · « **Reply #23 on:** March 28, 2012, 08:58:58 AM »

Quote from: celeres21 on March 28, 2012, 05:50:06 AM

I would have to go with phillies here...not only do they have a protect fortress that holds Altar of Dagan, they have Philistine Priests, one of the most underrated philistine cards. I also think that black is stronger as a defense than crimson, with plenty of discard, interrupts, and captures(although crimson has them beat as far as captures). They also have Fallen Warrior and Philistine Outpost...if your characters die, you can choose which one is needed for the current battle. Even with red making a comeback, no one really plays those that remove and discard philistines, and if they do, Temple of Dagon protects them. Philistines all they way!

Temple is only for those in territory, so it is not that great. Plus with Babylonians you can make use of Raiders camp and possible discard son of God from your opponent's deck.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2012, 06:14:37 AM »

The new King Belshazzar (not actually a king, but the English version of the Bible makes it sound like he is one

) changes things quite a bit. For 10 cards you can have Neb, Belshazzar, Banquet, Imitating Evil, Torment, Dream, Swift Horses, Nebushashban, TAS and another card of your choice. This is superior to anything Philies can do with 10 cards.

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