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« Reply #200 on: June 19, 2009, 01:45:27 AM »
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Gimping is when you niturrupt the recovery of a character causing them to fall and die
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« Reply #201 on: June 19, 2009, 04:02:31 PM »
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Oh.... I hate it when that happens to me. I'm not very good at gimping... I am pretty good at the down+a moves that hit people down.  ;D
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« Reply #202 on: June 20, 2009, 12:37:42 PM »
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I agree, use the Teleport sparingly.  MK should be somewhat balanced on the ground and in the air.  Be careful you don't run out of jumps in the air.  Be fluent in your attacks-don't just go after the opponent, but mix attack and defense.  So be careful!

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« Reply #203 on: June 20, 2009, 01:00:41 PM »
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« Reply #204 on: June 20, 2009, 11:58:50 PM »
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I just had to share this epic match we had at the MN state tournament.

It was teams -- Austin vs. Noobs (cities). The Austin team included Ring Wraith (Wolf) and myself (Marth) and the Noobs (Cities)  were comprised of JSB (Snake) and The Unforgiving (The Green Italian).

Austin starts out slow, we each had 100 damage whereas the cities had about 30 damage each. Ring Wraith was the first one to die and I followed shortly after. We were had a massive deficit, we were being destroyed while they laughed. We started making a small comeback, and I was angering them. I was constantly being hit back and forth, almost dying but always dodging their gimp attempts and surviving. They didn't KO me till 200%+ damage. They proved too much for my nooby partner. We were able to KO each player from the cities once, but Ring Wraith lost his last life shortly after. The combined efforts of JSB and Unforgiving easily KO'd me, and things looked dim for the great city of Austin. So, at this point the game looks like this

Austin Team
Myself - Marth - 2 Lives Left, apprx 30% damage.
Ring Wraith - Wolf - 0 Lives Left

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JSB - Snake - 2 Lives Left, apprx 80 damage
Unforgiving - luigi - 2 Lives Left - apprx 80 damage.

I was able to gimp JSB after a small aerial combo which brought him down to one life, but his partner still was tagging on damage. Here is where it gets epic: I'm hanging on the ledge, and the cities team is trying to keep me off the stage. I have trouble getting on, but I manage with some fancy finger work (but I still stay near the edge, it was my only chance). I'm able to KO Luigi once at this time, so each of us have 1 life. I'm at about 70% damage, they're both under 15% damage. JSB messes up his spacing so I'm able to grab him and throw him over. He attempts to recover, BUT I LAND A PERFECT METEOR SMASH WHICH HE COULD NOT RECOVER FROM; HE DIED AT AROUND 20% DAMAGE.

This leaves this a 1v1 match, my 70% damage Marth vs. Unforgiving's Low percent damage Luigi1. I'm able to pull off some fair aerials, and I keep him off the stage. I didn't really try to gimp him, I was simply racking up damage. It seemed he had trouble hitting me, so my plan seemed to be working. The gap was closing, I was at maybe 150% damage and he was at about 130%. I start up another combo, beginning it with an upward throw followed by a side aerial that knocks him quite a bit off the stage. I jump off the stage to try and gimp him, but I press the wrong button and he was able to recover (If I hit it, chances are he would have died). The ending isn't as exciting -- I miss a smash attack so he gets one in and kills me.

I think team Austin did pretty good considering I haven't played Brawl in 6 months or so and Ring Wraith is a total noob who is terrible at Brawl and died faster than a level 3 computer would have, it is his fault I lost2 has only been playing for a month.


1We played 1v1 earlier in the day and he destroyed me. Instead of doing the honorable thing and claiming he was better, I'm going to blame it on the stage. I NEED Marth's aerials and I had trouble short hopping on Final Destination. I made a schweet comeback on my favorite stage, Battlefield. I think I could own him on battle field, but defiantly not FD until I get my skillz back up (I haven't played for about 6 months.... so I wasn't very good)
2Haha, just kidding. Your ATLEAST a level 5 computer.



On an unrelated side note: Go Austin. Scott rep-re-sen-TED.
On a related note: GET READY FOR REGIONALS. I WILL FIND MY COPY OF BRAWL AND PRACTICE MY EPIC 7 HIT THROW-AERIAL-GROUND-AERIAL COMBO I USE TO HAVE MASTERED.
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Re: SSBB
« Reply #205 on: June 21, 2009, 01:44:15 AM »
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I was the luigi in the game.  You've got to be kidding me; AT LEAST A LEVEL 5??  Frankly, that's ridiculous.  And the stage shouldn't matter; if your aerials are so good, you should be able to own on whatever stage.  But still, Luigi's aerials are so much better.  I'm pretty sure you can't beat me, with your long-lost skills or not. :(


I just had to share this epic match we had at the MN state tournament.

It was teams -- Austin vs. Noobs (cities). The Austin team included Ring Wraith (Wolf) and myself (Marth) and the Noobs (Cities)  were comprised of JSB (Snake) and The Unforgiving (The Green Italian).

Austin starts out slow, we each had 100 damage whereas the cities had about 30 damage each. Ring Wraith was the first one to die and I followed shortly after. We were had a massive deficit, we were being destroyed while they laughed. We started making a small comeback, and I was angering them. I was constantly being hit back and forth, almost dying but always dodging their gimp attempts and surviving. They didn't KO me till 200%+ damage. They proved too much for my nooby partner. We were able to KO each player from the cities once, but Ring Wraith lost his last life shortly after. The combined efforts of JSB and Unforgiving easily KO'd me, and things looked dim for the great city of Austin. So, at this point the game looks like this

Austin Team
Myself - Marth - 2 Lives Left, apprx 30% damage.
Ring Wraith - Wolf - 0 Lives Left

Cities Team

JSB - Snake - 2 Lives Left, apprx 80 damage
Unforgiving - luigi - 2 Lives Left - apprx 80 damage.

I was able to gimp JSB after a small aerial combo which brought him down to one life, but his partner still was tagging on damage. Here is where it gets epic: I'm hanging on the ledge, and the cities team is trying to keep me off the stage. I have trouble getting on, but I manage with some fancy finger work (but I still stay near the edge, it was my only chance). I'm able to KO Luigi once at this time, so each of us have 1 life. I'm at about 70% damage, they're both under 15% damage. JSB messes up his spacing so I'm able to grab him and throw him over. He attempts to recover, BUT I LAND A PERFECT METEOR SMASH WHICH HE COULD NOT RECOVER FROM; HE DIED AT AROUND 20% DAMAGE.

This leaves this a 1v1 match, my 70% damage Marth vs. Unforgiving's Low percent damage Luigi1. I'm able to pull off some fair aerials, and I keep him off the stage. I didn't really try to gimp him, I was simply racking up damage. It seemed he had trouble hitting me, so my plan seemed to be working. The gap was closing, I was at maybe 150% damage and he was at about 130%. I start up another combo, beginning it with an upward throw followed by a side aerial that knocks him quite a bit off the stage. I jump off the stage to try and gimp him, but I press the wrong button and he was able to recover (If I hit it, chances are he would have died). The ending isn't as exciting -- I miss a smash attack so he gets one in and kills me.

I think team Austin did pretty good considering I haven't played Brawl in 6 months or so and Ring Wraith is a total noob who is terrible at Brawl and died faster than a level 3 computer would have, it is his fault I lost2 has only been playing for a month.


1We played 1v1 earlier in the day and he destroyed me. Instead of doing the honorable thing and claiming he was better, I'm going to blame it on the stage. I NEED Marth's aerials and I had trouble short hopping on Final Destination. I made a schweet comeback on my favorite stage, Battlefield. I think I could own him on battle field, but defiantly not FD until I get my skillz back up (I haven't played for about 6 months.... so I wasn't very good)
2Haha, just kidding. Your ATLEAST a level 5 computer.



On an unrelated side note: Go Austin. Scott rep-re-sen-TED.
On a related note: GET READY FOR REGIONALS. I WILL FIND MY COPY OF BRAWL AND PRACTICE MY EPIC 7 HIT THROW-AERIAL-GROUND-AERIAL COMBO I USE TO HAVE MASTERED.

You made the match seem like you were better and that our winning was a fluke; it wasn't so.  I lightened up a bit later on, but when it got a little more tense, i tensed up as well.  I had 4 out of 6 kills; i wasn't really worried. :-\


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« Reply #206 on: June 21, 2009, 08:35:23 AM »
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I was the luigi in the game.  You've got to be kidding me; AT LEAST A LEVEL 5??  Frankly, that's ridiculous.  And the stage shouldn't matter; if your aerials are so good, you should be able to own on whatever stage.  But still, Luigi's aerials are so much better.  I'm pretty sure you can't beat me, with your long-lost skills or not. :(
sweet, I may not be so horrible!

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Re: SSBB
« Reply #207 on: June 21, 2009, 03:33:25 PM »
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yeah wolf is just garb.

trust me. all of the characters above Luigi deserve to be up there.

i think Falco should be a bit lower.
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« Reply #208 on: June 21, 2009, 05:20:25 PM »
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I was the luigi in the game.  You've got to be kidding me; AT LEAST A LEVEL 5??  Frankly, that's ridiculous.
"Yeah, I still have trouble beating a level 9 computer." - Ring Wraith
The fact is my partner didn't have as much expirence as yours. Comparing him to a computer was sarcasm.

And the stage shouldn't matter; if your aerials are so good, you should be able to own on whatever stage.  But still, Luigi's aerials are so much better.  I'm pretty sure you can't beat me, with your long-lost skills or not. :(
There are two points I want to make on this quote. 1.) If you noticed, I was having trouble short hopping because I haven't played forever. That forced my Marth to fight on the ground while you were on the stage, which means I wasn't able to KO you until 200%+ damage. Battlefield let me use my aerials because of the playforms, and I got more KO's than you did there. Even when it was 2v1 I got 3 KO's (and the 4th could have gone either way) before you could get 1. Yep, you defiantly won that.
2.) The "I'm pretty sure you can't beat me" is both stupid, wrong, and uncalled for. It is stupid due to the fact that isinuates (I spelled that wrong I bet. I'm on a slow computer that won't let me open a spell check and this computer doesn't have firefox) that once someone beats a player, said winner is always better. Which means Ken is ALWAYS going to be the best on melee and PC Chris is ALWAYS going to be the best brawler. It is wrong because, to be honest, you got destroyed when I was able to use my aerial attacks. If you noticed, my aerial gameplay dominated yours (I'm not trying to offend you, but you landed maybe 5 hits in the air. You missed every gimp attempt).

You made the match seem like you were better and that our winning was a fluke; it wasn't so.  I lightened up a bit later on, but when it got a little more tense, i tensed up as well.  I had 4 out of 6 kills; i wasn't really worried. :-\
I simply described the match from my memory. I'm not trying to be arrogant or increase my already massive narcisistic personality, but the fact is I got 4 KO's and Ring Wraith got 1. Most of all, KO's aren't a fair measurement of skill. Lets say a pro is having a match with 3 good regular players (who are on a team). Chances are 1 player on the team will get atleast 2 KO's, but the pro player most likely will only get one because 3 people can easily overpower one. Does that mean the regular player is better than the pro?

I guess I'll leave this thread now. I don't want to start a flame war.
I know this reply seemed like I was trying to start one, but I was simply wanting to defend my points.
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« Reply #209 on: June 21, 2009, 07:31:47 PM »
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yeah wolf is just garb.

trust me. all of the characters above Luigi deserve to be up there.

i think Falco should be a bit lower.
I will remind you that wolf is higher on the tier list compared to sonic, and for a group brawl, he isn't as bad. I got destroyed in 1-on-1's. I'm also did some with Ike. he's garbage, but can be used effectively, it's just difficult.

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« Reply #210 on: June 21, 2009, 08:40:03 PM »
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looking for a game. please be nice though :)

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« Reply #211 on: June 21, 2009, 08:46:19 PM »
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When did I ever say Sonic was better?
My character is garbage, and I have no problem admitting that. He's too high on the list as it is. He should've stayed low tier.

Though, I will agree that Wolf has his pros in FFAs./
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« Reply #212 on: June 21, 2009, 08:49:56 PM »
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When did I ever say Sonic was better?
My character is garbage, and I have no problem admitting that. He's too high on the list as it is. He should've stayed low tier.

Though, I will agree that Wolf has his pros in FFAs./
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Re: SSBB
« Reply #213 on: June 22, 2009, 08:52:54 PM »
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Lets say a pro is having a match with 3 good regular players (who are on a team). Chances are 1 player on the team will get atleast 2 KO's, but the pro player most likely will only get one because 3 people can easily overpower one. Does that mean the regular player is better than the pro?

I'm pretty sure that this is false. The pro player would have way more kills, but he would lose in the end. Actually... if you're playing time, the pro would almost always win, imo.
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« Reply #214 on: June 22, 2009, 08:58:32 PM »
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Lets say a pro is having a match with 3 good regular players (who are on a team). Chances are 1 player on the team will get atleast 2 KO's, but the pro player most likely will only get one because 3 people can easily overpower one. Does that mean the regular player is better than the pro?

I'm pretty sure that this is false. The pro player would have way more kills, but he would lose in the end. Actually... if you're playing time, the pro would almost always win, imo.
If the 3 know what they're doing, it isn't really hard to dominate 1 person. If they grab, the two others can do full powered smash attacks. The one person can't probably do any smash attacks, and they'll struggle getting hits period because of the other two.

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« Reply #215 on: June 22, 2009, 10:01:14 PM »
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well the pro wouldnt be playing 3 people in the first place.

pros dont play FFAs.

singles and doubles. that's it.
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« Reply #216 on: June 23, 2009, 01:55:24 AM »
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And the stage shouldn't matter; if your aerials are so good, you should be able to own on whatever stage.  But still, Luigi's aerials are so much better.  I'm pretty sure you can't beat me, with your long-lost skills or not. :(
There are two points I want to make on this quote. 1.) If you noticed, I was having trouble short hopping because I haven't played forever. That forced my Marth to fight on the ground while you were on the stage, which means I wasn't able to KO you until 200%+ damage. Battlefield let me use my aerials because of the playforms, and I got more KO's than you did there. Even when it was 2v1 I got 3 KO's (and the 4th could have gone either way) before you could get 1. Yep, you defiantly won that.
2.) The "I'm pretty sure you can't beat me" is both stupid, wrong, and uncalled for. It is stupid due to the fact that isinuates (I spelled that wrong I bet. I'm on a slow computer that won't let me open a spell check and this computer doesn't have firefox) that once someone beats a player, said winner is always better. Which means Ken is ALWAYS going to be the best on melee and PC Chris is ALWAYS going to be the best brawler. It is wrong because, to be honest, you got destroyed when I was able to use my aerial attacks. If you noticed, my aerial gameplay dominated yours (I'm not trying to offend you, but you landed maybe 5 hits in the air. You missed every gimp attempt).

You made the match seem like you were better and that our winning was a fluke; it wasn't so.  I lightened up a bit later on, but when it got a little more tense, i tensed up as well.  I had 4 out of 6 kills; i wasn't really worried. :-\
I simply described the match from my memory. I'm not trying to be arrogant or increase my already massive narcisistic personality, but the fact is I got 4 KO's and Ring Wraith got 1. Most of all, KO's aren't a fair measurement of skill. Lets say a pro is having a match with 3 good regular players (who are on a team). Chances are 1 player on the team will get atleast 2 KO's, but the pro player most likely will only get one because 3 people can easily overpower one. Does that mean the regular player is better than the pro?

I guess I'll leave this thread now. I don't want to start a flame war.
I know this reply seemed like I was trying to start one, but I was simply wanting to defend my points.

I mean no insult at all, but your aerial play wasn't/isn't better.  The air is Luigi's domain; he has a bigger jump than Marth, better recovery (good for gimping), and can pull off more attacks in the air faster than Marth.  And i didn't miss every gimp attempt; i made most all of them.  Luigi's air attacks can be pulled off in very quick succession; they're some of the fastest as well.
W/the level 5 thing, i was mistaken in thinking you were talking about me; my bad. ::) 

Don't worry; i'm not mad. :)  Staying in the post won't cause a flame war; TheCatinTheHat and i had a good debate.  You should stay in the thread. :thumbup: 
Sorry if i came off wrong with the "I'm pretty sure...".
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« Reply #217 on: June 23, 2009, 02:01:22 AM »
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Wow, I really hope your not serious with your arrogance, Unforgivable.  0_o
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« Reply #218 on: June 23, 2009, 02:59:28 AM »
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Wow, I really hope your not serious with your arrogance, Unforgivable.  0_o
He's not being arrogant, he's actually that good
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« Reply #219 on: June 23, 2009, 04:02:09 AM »
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« Reply #220 on: June 23, 2009, 09:11:38 AM »
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as far as warring in the air goes, I think Marth won that with all of the gimps. Luigi might have done better just jumping around, but when it Luigi or Marth would go off-stage, Marth would always win in a gimping attempt.

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« Reply #221 on: June 23, 2009, 12:33:52 PM »
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Don't worry; i'm not mad. :)  Staying in the post won't cause a flame war; TheCatinTheHat and i had a good debate.  You should stay in the thread. :thumbup: 
Sorry if i came off wrong with the "I'm pretty sure...".
I didn't get KO'd once while I was in the air (I had one star death and the rest of the deaths were when I was hit too far to the side). I always died from a Smash attack at high damages. I got more than half of my KO's from gimping. Marth's aerials have good knock back, have decent range, and deal up to 18 damage.

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« Reply #222 on: June 23, 2009, 12:35:11 PM »
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Wow, I really hope your not serious with your arrogance, Unforgivable.  0_o
He's not being arrogant, he's actually that good
I don't care if your the best player in the world, nothing justifies being a jerk.
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« Reply #223 on: June 23, 2009, 01:06:42 PM »
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Wow, I really hope your not serious with your arrogance, Unforgivable.  0_o
He's not being arrogant, he's actually that good
I don't care if your the best player in the world, nothing justifies being a jerk.
After re-reading that post several time I fail to see what you are talking about
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« Reply #224 on: June 23, 2009, 07:58:00 PM »
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Marth beats Luigi by a mile. He outranges him in EVERYTHING.

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