Author Topic: Teal/Green HT + Z Temple/Kings of Israel: enhancement troubles... (Read 5005 times)

Wings of Music · « **on:** February 10, 2012, 01:31:34 AM »

Here's a type I deck I'm working on, I haven't acquired all the cards for it (this deck isn't in physical existence yet), so before I proceed any further I'd like to know if I'm on the right track. (Please note that I've built it for the impending dom cap rule.)

12 Heroes:

Gold: Moses

Green: Micah, Benniah, Hur, Haggi

Teal: Joshua the High priest, Joiada, Ahimaz, Phineas son of Eleazar

Teal/Green: Zechariah, Jeremiah, Aaron

9 Good Enhancements:

Green: Search, Two Bears, Provisions,

Teal: Trumpet and Sword, Zeal for the Lord, Holy Unto the Lord

Teal/Green: Feast of Trumpets

Teal/White: Benedictus

Teal/Purple: Pentecost

9 Evil Characters

Orange: KoT

Brown: Uzzah, Gomer , King Ammon, King Zedekiah, King Rehoboam

Pale Green/Brown: King Mannaseh

Pale Green/Orange: Damsel with Spirit of Divination

Brown/Gold: The Amalakite’s Slave

2 Evil enhancements:

Brown: Dungeon of Malchiah, Haman’s Plot, ~~Gibeonite Trickery~~

2 Fortresses:

Good: Zerubbabel’s Temple

Evil: The Gates of Jerusalem

1 Covenant:

Covenant with Phineas

5 Artifacts:

Lampstand of the Sanctuary, Magic Charms Gifts of the magi, Urim and Thummin, Hidden Treasures

8 Lost souls:

N.T. Only, hopper, Shame, Anti-dominant, Revealer, First Round Protect, Exchanger, */4

7 Dominants:

Good: Grapes of Wrath, Son of God, New Jerusalem, Angel of the Lord

Evil: Christian Martyr, Mayhem, Destruction of Neheshtuan

Nameless · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2012, 08:22:43 AM »

I would put in more of the Z's Temple priests in your deck.

Red Wing · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2012, 08:41:42 AM »

Looks pretty good. Trumpet Blast would probably better than Trumpet & Sword since you only have two Warrior Class heroes. I'd also consider Filling Zerubabbel's Temple. It can search for Z-temple or Lampy and win a battle.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:17:33 AM »

Quote from: Nameless on February 10, 2012, 08:22:43 AM

I would put in more of the Z's Temple priests in your deck.

I would like more Z Temple guys but who would I switch em out for? Plus Remember that Ahimaz and Phineas also have protection from capture in their abilities.

Quote from: Red Wing on February 10, 2012, 08:41:42 AM

Looks pretty good. Trumpet Blast would probably better than Trumpet & Sword since you only have two Warrior Class heroes.

Actually I have three, Ahimaz, Phineas, and Kings Benniah. I had planned on T-Blast for a while but I traded it off recently for a couple of reasons. A. It only got rid of characters in battle so it didn't work with HT. B. It would only get rid of an occupied Nazzy, and since I have so many green heroes there's a good chance that it would never be occupied.

I'd also consider Filling Zerubabbel's Temple. It can search for Z-temple or Lampy and win a battle.

This sounds legit, what should I put it in for?

Red Wing · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:42:19 AM »

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Actually I have three, Ahimaz, Phineas, and Kings Benniah. I had planned on T-Blast for a while but I traded it off recently for a couple of reasons. A. It only got rid of characters in battle so it didn't work with HT. B. It would only get rid of an occupied Nazzy, and since I have so many green heroes there's a good chance that it would never be occupied.

Ahh my bad. I guess I'm just used to the WA Benniah.

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This sounds legit, what should I put it in for?

I would take out Ezra's Journey for it. You have a lot of protection from capture, and you would be giving away initiative for your opponent to play something nasty.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:14:04 AM »

Ok that sounds good, especially since Filling Z's temple is a card I already have.

Additionally Do you guys think that it will get set up fast enough? That's my main concern. Oh and is the defense strong enough?

Red Wing · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:24:39 AM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on February 10, 2012, 11:14:04 AM

Ok that sounds good, especially since Filling Z's temple is a card I already have.

Additionally Do you guys think that it will get set up fast enough? That's my main concern. Oh and is the defense strong enough?

With the feasts, Hur+gifts, searching, & drawing on the defense, it looks fast enough. The defense looks pretty good. If you want to make it faster, cut the most of the defense for drawing and go down to 51 cards.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #7 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:31:10 AM »

That probably would be best, it's just that I love defense too much

(Comes from being a CA boy I suppose)

Red Wing · « **Reply #8 on:** February 10, 2012, 11:36:22 AM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on February 10, 2012, 11:31:10 AM

That probably would be best, it's just that I love defense too much (Comes from being a CA boy I suppose)

That's fine. Just play with whatever works best for you.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #9 on:** February 16, 2012, 12:31:12 AM »

Quote from: Red Wing on February 15, 2012, 12:11:56 PM

Gib Trick probably won't work against a six or seven character FBTN chain.

Crud,apparently I've been playing Gib Trick wrong all these years... I thought and end the battle ability simply meant return everybody to territory

That being said what should I add in? A recurable CBN brown battle winner would be ideal...

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #10 on:** February 16, 2012, 12:33:46 AM »

Wickedness of the Tenants.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #11 on:** February 16, 2012, 12:38:01 AM »

Thanks Chronic! You would think that after four years of this game I would be smarter than that

SomeKittens · « **Reply #12 on:** February 16, 2012, 10:52:51 AM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on February 16, 2012, 12:33:46 AM

Wickedness of the Tenants.

It's still interruptable, and won't work against a large banding chain. Shmi's Malicious Curse.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #13 on:** February 16, 2012, 01:12:45 PM »

The problem with that one is that I'm looking for something to play on Ammon (endgame recursion) who is only 2/2... $:-\$

Red Wing · « **Reply #14 on:** February 16, 2012, 03:08:48 PM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on February 16, 2012, 01:12:45 PM

The problem with that one is that I'm looking for something to play on Ammon (endgame recursion) who is only 2/2... $:-\$

Hopefully you'll have won by then. If not, your opponent will be set up anyway.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #15 on:** February 16, 2012, 03:34:52 PM »

Hmmm I guess I'll playtest them both and decide which one works best...

Wings of Music · « **Reply #16 on:** April 01, 2012, 01:47:04 AM »

I know that this is a necro post + double post at the same time, but after play-testing that enhancement mix up here's what i've come up with.

Gib Trick - CBN works against low numbered, non-banded heroes, recurable, but dies to high numbers/bandng

Shimei's Malicious curse - Works against low numbered heroes, negates bad stuff, recurable, but dies to CBN/high numbers

Wickedness of the Tenants - Interrupt + Win, CBP, but doesn't do much against banding, and is not recurable.

Great Mourning - Fun, if drawn early it gives a 1 turn advantage, but doesn't win current battle, non-recurable.

Wickedness abounds - D4, play next, and recurable, but doesn't win a battle and can be kind of situational.

Korah's Rebellion - ITB, not terribly commonly protected against, but I lose my EC, non-recurable.

I know that's a lot of choices but I've found myself having to do a lot of experimentation.

A different thing I've done is to cut the enhancement for Obadiah's caves this give protection from capture to all my prophets which is helpful in some games, but in others I find that I miss my extra EE since I'm not usually willing to rip a plot unless it's a serious situation. Soooo, what should I pick?

Red Wing · « **Reply #17 on:** April 02, 2012, 11:37:11 AM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 01, 2012, 01:47:04 AM

I know that this is a necro post + double post at the same time, but after play-testing that enhancement mix up here's what i've come up with.

Gib Trick - CBN works against low numbered, non-banded heroes, recurable, but dies to high numbers/bandng

Shimei's Malicious curse - Works against low numbered heroes, negates bad stuff, recurable, but dies to CBN/high numbers

Wickedness of the Tenants - Interrupt + Win, CBP, but doesn't do much against banding, and is not recurable.

Great Mourning - Fun, if drawn early it gives a 1 turn advantage, but doesn't win current battle, non-recurable.

Wickedness abounds - D4, play next, and recurable, but doesn't win a battle and can be kind of situational.

Korah's Rebellion - ITB, not terribly commonly protected against, but I lose my EC, non-recurable.

I know that's a lot of choices but I've found myself having to do a lot of experimentation.

A different thing I've done is to cut the enhancement for Obadiah's caves this give protection from capture to all my prophets which is helpful in some games, but in others I find that I miss my extra EE since I'm not usually willing to rip a plot unless it's a serious situation. Soooo, what should I pick?

Trembling Demon, Holy of Holies, and Torment could give you 3 more blocks. HoH can be held in Z-Temple, and Torment could also work with Uzzah. However, you're pretty tight on space, and I'm not really sure what I'd take out.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #18 on:** April 24, 2012, 01:51:52 AM »

I've finished another round of play-testing and have found that I need better counters to FBTNB.

I've taken out Shimei's Malicious curse and can add in HHI to help stop it.

Or, I could add trembling Demon and HoH for a good auto-block. If I did do this I could take out Ammon pretty easily. Another add I would like to make, if I do go the trembling demon/HoH route, is to add in T-ment like Red Wing suggested, but I'm not sure what to take out.

EYES_on_ZION · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2012, 07:33:46 PM »

Shuffle? Why, iam curious.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #20 on:** April 28, 2012, 01:16:18 AM »

Quote from: EYES_on_ZION on April 27, 2012, 07:33:46 PM

Shuffle? Why, iam curious.

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What are you asking exactly? I don't quite understand...

Red Wing · « **Reply #21 on:** April 28, 2012, 08:57:05 AM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 28, 2012, 01:16:18 AM

Quote from: EYES_on_ZION on April 27, 2012, 07:33:46 PM
Shuffle? Why, iam curious.
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What are you asking exactly? I don't quite understand...

I think he's asking why you are using the Shuffler LS, which is probably a bad idea… Where's the NT and Female Onlys?

Wings of Music · « **Reply #22 on:** April 28, 2012, 09:03:09 AM »

Ah, got it. I haven't updated the souls since the rule changes, good catch.

EYES_on_ZION · « **Reply #23 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:30:48 AM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 28, 2012, 01:16:18 AM

Quote from: EYES_on_ZION on April 27, 2012, 07:33:46 PM
Shuffle? Why, iam curious.
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What are you asking exactly? I don't quite understand...

Oh sorry haha. What is your reason for using the shuffler lost soul? It is terrible in this format.

EYES_on_ZION · « **Reply #24 on:** April 29, 2012, 09:33:57 AM »

Oh nevermind he already answered for me. Mybad

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