Author Topic: The Great White Ruth (Read 5832 times)

dermo4christ · « **on:** October 01, 2021, 01:50:11 PM »

Hey friends,
Here is a deck that I could use some opinions on. I had this idea from Gabe using GWT/TLGBY combo to start a side battle with ECs off TlGBY and then dc GWT to keep all but one EC in battle....keeping g side battle EC in. Its like a good version of Rehoboam/Strife combo. Its at 53 but I don't know what else to cut. Could use some help. Thanks!

Cards: 52

Souls: 7
Prosperity
Forsaken
Remnant
Humble
Hunter
Exiles
Blind

Doms: 7
DoN
Woes
CoTK
AotL
CM Strife
SoG/TSC

Support: 7
TGWT
BoTC
Delivered
Naomi's Blessing
Threshing Floor
Land of Moab
Cov. W/ David

Heroes: 10
Music Leader
Boaz
Ruth
David, HaG
Jesse
Obed
Elimelech
Salmon
Elders
Foreman

GEs: 8
TLGBY
~~Solomon's Dream~~
Royal Parade
~~Temple Dedication~~ Virgin Birth
Preparing to Return
Offspring
K. Agreement
5th Seal
Faith

ECs: 8
K. Rezin
P. Daughters
Lying Prophet
Deceiver
C. Of the Chariots
Breaker
Syrian Mercs

EEs: 5
Scsttered Sheep
Scattered
Arrest in Jerusalem
Gams Speech
~~Idol Worship~~
Brother's Conflict

Reserve:10
YGWBMG
Amminidab
Boaz Sandal
Oath of Purity
YWR
Overcome!
Merc. Chariots
Unsuccessful
Damascus (EC)
Love Righteousness

Watchman · « **Reply #1 on:** October 01, 2021, 02:08:04 PM »

I’m ignant. What is TLGBY?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #2 on:** October 01, 2021, 02:10:29 PM »

The lord goes before you. White/purple side battle card. Seriously underrated

The Guardian · « **Reply #3 on:** October 01, 2021, 02:27:25 PM »

Without having played the deck or seen it being played, I would probably cut 1 Hero (10 main deck Heroes should be enough) and probably Idol Worship to get it down to 51 and go from there.

Gabe · « **Reply #4 on:** October 01, 2021, 02:30:48 PM »

Daughter’s Grief is really good post rotation. CBN battle winners are tough to come by and it can be leveraged for both your offense and defense.

Brother’s Conflict is another side battle card that fits into your offense but also works on a couple of your EC.

Red · « **Reply #5 on:** October 01, 2021, 02:56:40 PM »

What is delivered doing in here? Delivered can only be played on one EC by my estimation.

Watchman · « **Reply #6 on:** October 01, 2021, 03:20:21 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on October 01, 2021, 02:10:29 PM

The lord goes before you. White/purple side battle card. Seriously underrated

Ah yes. Thx. And yes it is a very good card.

The Guardian · « **Reply #7 on:** October 01, 2021, 03:39:25 PM »

Quote from: Red on October 01, 2021, 02:56:40 PM

What is delivered doing in here? Delivered can only be played on one EC by my estimation.

Heh, that's a good question... but maybe Delivered is just that good...

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #8 on:** October 01, 2021, 04:00:34 PM »

Quote from: Red on October 01, 2021, 02:56:40 PM

What is delivered doing in here? Delivered can only be played on one EC by my estimation.

Playing it for the clutch SoG discard via star ability

Reth · « **Reply #9 on:** October 01, 2021, 06:52:46 PM »

I also wanted to suggest Brother's Conflict since TLGBY is great in itself since it can be played on a musician or royalty (Esther - hint, hint

) and then DCs the 2 ECs that went into side battle afterwards.

Red Wing · « **Reply #10 on:** October 01, 2021, 07:40:35 PM »

Virgin Birth and Love Righteousness both feel like absolute staples in white. I don't love Temple Dedication without more Musicians. You probably have enough targets to main deck Covenant with David.

dermo4christ · « **Reply #11 on:** October 01, 2021, 08:18:02 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on October 01, 2021, 04:00:34 PM

Quote from: Red on October 01, 2021, 02:56:40 PM
What is delivered doing in here? Delivered can only be played on one EC by my estimation.

Playing it for the clutch SoG discard via star ability

Yes!!

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #12 on:** October 01, 2021, 09:39:50 PM »

Quote from: Red Wing on October 01, 2021, 07:40:35 PM

Virgin Birth and Love Righteousness both feel like absolute staples in white. I don't love Temple Dedication without more Musicians. You probably have enough targets to main deck Covenant with David.

Pretty sure Virgin Birth is a staple period

dermo4christ · « **Reply #13 on:** October 01, 2021, 10:32:01 PM »

these are all great ideas! I will revamp this and then show my fixes! Thanks guys!

dermo4christ · « **Reply #14 on:** October 01, 2021, 10:52:38 PM »

Ok original deck updated with the changes shown: took out Rahab to get down to 10 heroes. Cut Idol Worship. Moved C. W/ David to main deck and replaced it with Love Righteousness in Reserve. Cut Temple Ded. for Virgin Birth. Cut Solomon's Dream for Brother's Conflict. Cut CM for Strife to use combo with B. Conflict.

I cut Dream because I can only use once to get a good card. I figured a worthy Rehoboam/Strife like combo in Brother's Conflict/Strife would be a better choice. I'm not sure if cutting CM for Strife was best as its an auto block with a sole rescuer. However, if Forsaken gets negated and heroes band into battle martyr won't work so well. So i figured if I added Conflict I would need Strife to deny my opponent SI so I can play Strife and leave one Hero in side battle for the block.

What do you all think? I'm still at 52 though. Not sure what else to cut.

dermo4christ · « **Reply #15 on:** October 01, 2021, 10:55:40 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on October 01, 2021, 02:30:48 PM

Daughter’s Grief is really good post rotation. CBN battle winners are tough to come by and it can be leveraged for both your offense and defense.

Brother’s Conflict is another side battle card that fits into your offense but also works on a couple of your EC.

Daughter's Grief is a great card, but it's conditonal to opponent blocking with a female for the CBN status. If anything it could go in Reserve.

Reth · « **Reply #16 on:** October 02, 2021, 04:40:52 AM »

In my white builds I also often use Consider the Lilies (well Classic only), Love Righteousness and Reverence and Awe for Forts, Cities and Sites + sometimes DCing a SoG while 2nd Coming was not yet played by opponent. Also I switched from Overccome! to Word of Their Testimony for the big bad orange guys.

RedemptionAggie · « **Reply #17 on:** October 02, 2021, 02:58:13 PM »

Quote

I had this idea from Gabe using GWT/TLGBY combo to start a side battle with ECs off TlGBY and then dc GWT to keep all but one EC in battle....keeping g side battle EC in. Its like a good version of Rehoboam/Strife combo.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this doesn't work like a good version of Rehoboam/Strife, because TGWT "forces opponent to withdraw", which means they choose the EC that remains, not you. You can use the combo to short out the side battle to get to TLGBY's banish and discard quicker, which can help defeat a lone blocker, which you can achieve with a previous use of TGWT.

That issue is specific to wording similar to TGWT - Seventh Seal would work as expected, except it only withdraws non-humans.

TheJaylor · « **Reply #18 on:** October 02, 2021, 06:32:58 PM »

Grapes probably goes in either the DoN or Strife spot if you're using Bro's Conflict. I can be good if you're behind and is basically exactly the side battle+Strife combo but for your offense and it discards and shuffles rather than withdrawing.

dermo4christ · « **Reply #19 on:** October 03, 2021, 08:48:17 PM »

Quote from: TheJaylor on October 02, 2021, 06:32:58 PM

Grapes probably goes in either the DoN or Strife spot if you're using Bro's Conflict. I can be good if you're behind and is basically exactly the side battle+Strife combo but for your offense and it discards and shuffles rather than withdrawing.

I like this! However, I don't have the new Grapes promo to keep this post rotation. If i do grapes, it will be classic...lol.

TheJaylor · « **Reply #20 on:** October 03, 2021, 11:48:22 PM »

Quote from: dermo4christ on October 03, 2021, 08:48:17 PM

Quote from: TheJaylor on October 02, 2021, 06:32:58 PM
Grapes probably goes in either the DoN or Strife spot if you're using Bro's Conflict. I can be good if you're behind and is basically exactly the side battle+Strife combo but for your offense and it discards and shuffles rather than withdrawing.

I like this! However, I don't have the new Grapes promo to keep this post rotation. If i do grapes, it will be classic...lol.

Well, if you're just planning to test the deck for now, you'd probably be able to get a LR one from GoC when that comes out, but yeah, if you plan to use it in a tourney before then that makes sense.

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Author Topic: The Great White Ruth (Read 5832 times)