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		Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: dermo4christ on October 01, 2021, 01:50:11 PM
		
			
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				Hey friends,
 Here is a deck that I could use some opinions on. I had this idea from Gabe using GWT/TLGBY combo to start a side battle with ECs off TlGBY and then dc GWT to keep all but one EC in battle....keeping g side battle EC in. Its like a good version of Rehoboam/Strife combo. Its at 53 but I don't know what else to cut. Could use some help. Thanks!
 
 Cards: 52
 
 Souls: 7
 Prosperity
 Forsaken
 Remnant
 Humble
 Hunter
 Exiles
 Blind
 
 Doms: 7
 DoN
 Woes
 CoTK
 AotL
 CMStrife
 SoG/TSC
 
 Support: 7
 TGWT
 BoTC
 Delivered
 Naomi's Blessing
 Threshing Floor
 Land of Moab
 Cov. W/ David
 
 
 Heroes: 10
 Music Leader
 Boaz
 Ruth
 David, HaG
 Jesse
 Obed
 Elimelech
 Salmon
 Elders
 Foreman
 
 GEs: 8
 TLGBY
 Solomon's Dream
 Royal Parade
 Temple Dedication Virgin Birth
 Preparing to Return
 Offspring
 K. Agreement
 5th Seal
 Faith
 
 ECs: 8
 K. Rezin
 P. Daughters
 Lying Prophet
 Deceiver
 C. Of the Chariots
 Breaker
 Syrian Mercs
 
 EEs: 5
 Scsttered Sheep
 Scattered
 Arrest in Jerusalem
 Gams Speech
 Idol Worship
 Brother's Conflict
 
 Reserve:10
 YGWBMG
 Amminidab
 Boaz Sandal
 Oath of Purity
 YWR
 Overcome!
 Merc. Chariots
 Unsuccessful
 Damascus (EC)
 Love Righteousness
 
 
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				I’m ignant. What is TLGBY?
			
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				The lord goes before you. White/purple side battle card. Seriously underrated 
			
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				Without having played the deck or seen it being played, I would probably cut 1 Hero (10 main deck Heroes should be enough) and probably Idol Worship to get it down to 51 and go from there.
			
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				Daughter’s Grief is really good post rotation. CBN battle winners are tough to come by and it can be leveraged for both your offense and defense. 
 
 Brother’s Conflict is another side battle card that fits into your offense but also works on a couple of your EC.
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				What is delivered doing in here? Delivered can only be played on one EC by my estimation.
 
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				The lord goes before you. White/purple side battle card. Seriously underrated
 
 
 Ah yes. Thx. And yes it is a very good card.
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				What is delivered doing in here? Delivered can only be played on one EC by my estimation.
 
 
 Heh, that's a good question... but maybe Delivered is just that good...  :o
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				What is delivered doing in here? Delivered can only be played on one EC by my estimation.
 
 
 
 Playing it for the clutch SoG discard via star ability
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				I also wanted to suggest Brother's Conflict since TLGBY is great in itself since it can be played on a musician or royalty (Esther - hint, hint ;D) and then DCs the 2 ECs that went into side battle afterwards.
			
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				Virgin Birth and Love Righteousness both feel like absolute staples in white. I don't love Temple Dedication without more Musicians. You probably have enough targets to main deck Covenant with David.
			
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				What is delivered doing in here? Delivered can only be played on one EC by my estimation.
 
 
 
 Playing it for the clutch SoG discard via star ability
 
 
 Yes!!
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				Virgin Birth and Love Righteousness both feel like absolute staples in white. I don't love Temple Dedication without more Musicians. You probably have enough targets to main deck Covenant with David.
 
 
 Pretty sure Virgin Birth is a staple period
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				these are all great ideas! I will revamp this and then show my fixes! Thanks guys!
			
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				Ok original deck updated with the changes shown: took out Rahab to get down to 10 heroes. Cut Idol Worship. Moved C. W/ David to main deck and replaced it with Love Righteousness in Reserve. Cut Temple Ded. for Virgin Birth. Cut Solomon's Dream for Brother's Conflict. Cut CM for Strife to use combo with B. Conflict. 
 
 I cut Dream because I can only use once to get a good card. I figured a worthy Rehoboam/Strife like combo in Brother's Conflict/Strife would be a better choice. I'm not sure if cutting CM for Strife was best as its an auto block with a sole rescuer. However, if Forsaken gets negated and heroes band into battle martyr won't work so well. So i figured if I added Conflict I would need Strife to deny my opponent SI so I can play Strife and leave one Hero in side battle for the block.
 
 What do you all think? I'm still at 52 though. Not sure what else to cut.
 
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				Daughter’s Grief is really good post rotation. CBN battle winners are tough to come by and it can be leveraged for both your offense and defense. 
 
 Brother’s Conflict is another side battle card that fits into your offense but also works on a couple of your EC.
 
 
 
 Daughter's Grief is a great card, but it's conditonal to opponent blocking with a female for the CBN status. If anything it could go in Reserve.
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				In my white builds I also often use Consider the Lilies (well Classic only), Love Righteousness and Reverence and Awe for Forts, Cities and Sites + sometimes DCing a SoG while 2nd Coming was not yet played by opponent. Also I switched from Overccome! to Word of Their Testimony for the big bad orange guys.
			
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				I had this idea from Gabe using GWT/TLGBY combo to start a side battle with ECs off TlGBY and then dc GWT to keep all but one EC in battle....keeping g side battle EC in. Its like a good version of Rehoboam/Strife combo. 
 I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but this doesn't work like a good version of Rehoboam/Strife, because TGWT "forces opponent to withdraw", which means they choose the EC that remains, not you. You can use the combo to short out the side battle to get to TLGBY's banish and discard quicker, which can help defeat a lone blocker, which you can achieve with a previous use of TGWT.
 
 That issue is specific to wording similar to TGWT - Seventh Seal would work as expected, except it only withdraws non-humans.
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				Grapes probably goes in either the DoN or Strife spot if you're using Bro's Conflict. I can be good if you're behind and is basically exactly the side battle+Strife combo but for your offense and it discards and shuffles rather than withdrawing.
			
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				Grapes probably goes in either the DoN or Strife spot if you're using Bro's Conflict. I can be good if you're behind and is basically exactly the side battle+Strife combo but for your offense and it discards and shuffles rather than withdrawing.
 
 
 I like this! However, I don't have the new Grapes promo to keep this post rotation. If i do grapes, it will be classic...lol.
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				Grapes probably goes in either the DoN or Strife spot if you're using Bro's Conflict. I can be good if you're behind and is basically exactly the side battle+Strife combo but for your offense and it discards and shuffles rather than withdrawing.
 
 
 I like this! However, I don't have the new Grapes promo to keep this post rotation. If i do grapes, it will be classic...lol.
 
 Well, if you're just planning to test the deck for now, you'd probably be able to get a LR one from GoC when that comes out, but yeah, if you plan to use it in a tourney before then that makes sense.