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Gold/Pale Green
« on: January 20, 2017, 02:50:18 PM »
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Deck x77

Lost Souls x10
Psalm 1:4 Site Doubler (Kings)
Psalm 30:3 Rescue, Search Discard for Hero (Deck I)
Psalm 119:176 Angel rescue, Underdeck (Priests)
Jeremiah 7:18 Female, SoG (Deck H)
Ezekiel 34:6 Exchanger (Priests)
Matthew 19:26 1st Rd Dom or Ang only (Angel Wars)
Luke 15:6 Rescue, Draw 1 (Deck J)
Luke 19:10 Negate (Disciples 29)
Acts 23:27 Withdraw, Underdeck (Angel Wars)
I Corinthians 1:27 Site Discard (Deck G


Lost Soul Sites x3
Gold x1
Chorazin (Disciples 28)

Silver x1
Nero's Realm (Apostles)

Teal x1
Jericho (Priests)


Artifacts x5
Hezekiah's Signet Ring (Kings)
Joseph's Silver Cup (Patriarchs)
Tables of the Law (Priests)
Wool Fleece (Patriachs)
Three Nails (Apostles)


Double Character Good/Evil x1
Saul/Paul (Apostles)

Good Cards x29

Dominants x4
Angel of the Lord (Deck D)
Glory of the Lord (Kings)
New Jerusalem (Gift Set)
Son of God (Deck J)


Fortresses x4
Jerusalem Tower (Patriarchs)
Kerith Ravine (Kings)
Solomon's Temple (Patriarchs)
The Tabernacle (Priests)


Covenants x2

Silver x1
Covenant of Eden

Gold x1
Covenant With Moses


Heroes x6
Non Warrior x4
Eleazar the Guard (Priests)
Moses (Deck G)
Sower (Disciples 47)
The Woman at the Well (TeXP 15)
Warrior x2
Gold
Israelite Archer (Kings)
Red
Naharai (FooF IX)

Enhancements x14

Gold x9
Non-Warrior Class x8
The Acts of Solomon (Kings)
Battle Prayer (Kings)
Furnace of God's Wrath (Prophets)
Gideon's Call (Patriarchs)
Highway (Prophets)
Raised to Life (Deck F)
Sword Against Sword (Kings)
Two Olive Branches (Prophets)

Purple x1
Trust (Patriarchs)

Power Enhancements x4
Rainbow non-Territory x1
The Sabbath (Priests)
Rainbow Territory x1
Raising Lazarus
White/Gold
Family Bond (Deck J)
When Judges Governed (Deck J)


Evil Cards x29

Dominants x5
Burial (Deck F)
Christian Martyr (Deck C)
Falling Away (Womens)
Vain Philosophy (Deck J)
Strife (Deck I)


Fortresses x2
Raiders' Camp (Kings)
Satan's Seat (FooF II)


Curses x2
Crimson x1
Go Into Captivity (Priests)
Gold x1
Unknown Nation (Priests)


Evil Characters x6
Non Warrior x4
Esau, the Hunter (Deck F)
Hophni, son of Eli (Priests)
Phinehas, son of Eli (Priests)
Spirit of Doubt (Angel Wars)
Warrior Class x2
Assyrian Archer (FooF VII)
King Tiglath-Pileser III (Kings)


Evil Enhancements x14
Pale Green x12
All Hope Lost (Patriarchs)
Captured by Assyria (FooF VII)
Confusion (Prophets)
Consumed by Doubt (Angel Wars)
Death of Jacob (Deck F)
Death of Unrighteous (Patriarchs)
Fear of Danger (Angel Wars)
Hostility (Apostles)
Judah's Sin (Patriarchs)
Murder (Deck F)
The Rabshakeh Attacks (Kings)
Slave Trade (Deck F)


Power Enhancements x2
Rainbow non-Territory x1
Siegeworks (Patriarchs)
Rainbow Territory x1
Ashtaroth Worship
« Last Edit: January 22, 2017, 04:07:26 PM by beefstew1 »
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2017, 04:17:56 PM »
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have you built this on lackey to play online?
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2017, 04:23:06 PM »
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Welcome to the boards! Good job on putting together a deck! Here are some general deck-building tips to help you as you fine-tune this deck:

- For most decks, the optimal deck size is 50-56 cards
- With that many cards, you will want seven lost souls and seven dominants
- It's typically best to have about an equal number of characters to enhancements, both on offense and defense. Usually around 8-10 Heroes, 8-10 Good Enhancements, 8-10 Evil Characters, and 8-10 Evil Enhancements. Having the approximate 1:1 ratio helps avoid hand clog (too many enhancements so you end up discarding a bunch at the end of your turn because you have to get down to 8 cards).
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2017, 04:41:05 PM »
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I haven't heard of Lackey.
Could you post a link please for me to give it a shot?

I also haven't had to much issues with this deck getting my hand above 8 cards or 10 when Tables of the Law is activated.
Haven't lost against any friends with it either.  I had just tuned it up a few days ago after not playing much for about 7 years.  This deck without the tuning I did in the past couple days was about 10 years old and undefeated.

Pretty much once I have a certain 4 cards in my hand it is pretty much game over for the opponent.  Only got that in the initial draw one time and the game was done against 3 other players.
If I can't get rid of their demons then I use Three Nails and make sure to put Moses into battle so that no demon is capable of blocking because the special ability would be negated.

If you've got suggestions for better cards to be put in it, please help out.

I was on here as beefstew and can't get into that account now so I made this one (I didn't log in for a couple years due to the army and there was a "cleanup" going on on the site to get rid of inactive members.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2017, 05:17:01 PM »
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Here is the board post with the info! I play on Lackey a lot, it's super fun and a great tool for deck building!

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/rtsonline-play/redemption-plugin-for-lackey-ccg-(out-of-beta)/

Three Lions Gaming also has info

http://www.threelionsgaming.com/redemption-lackey-downloads
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2017, 11:34:59 PM »
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Yes I would totally recommend Lackey - so helpful for deck-building, and also you can play online against other players!  :)

As far as your deck, here are some upgrades I would recommend:

- only use special ability lost souls, and moreover, ones with abilities that support your deck's concept/strategies
- maximize your dominants (include as many as you have lost souls)
- use the newest version of Son of God (from the I or J deck), as it's a big upgrade with the negate added on
- check out, either on Lackey, Landofredemption.com, or threelionsgaming.com, the newest few sets as they have much more powerful cards than some of the ones you're using (although you definitely have some quality cards in this deck!) - those sets would be Cloud of Witnesses, The Persecuted Church, and The Early Church
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2017, 07:38:14 AM »
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Thanks for that.
I didn't notice the difference on the J Son of God.
I'll get that swapped out today and I should have more special ability lost soul cards since my cousin was done playing a while ago and gave me his cards which brought me probably up to 3,500 cards from the 2,000 or so that I had.
I've got 8 other decks that I absolutely know need work but I want to get this one as fine tuned as possible with keeping its size.
May even make a deck similar to this one as a type 2 with probably exactly 100 cards.
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2017, 09:47:46 AM »
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Just modified

1. Replaced Greek SoG with SoG (Deck J)
2. Replaced 3 Non-Special Ability Lost Souls with
     a. Psalm 30:3 Rescue, Search Discard for Hero (Deck I)
     b. Psalm 1:4 Site Doubler (Kings)
     c. Acts 23:27 Withdraw, Under-deck (Angel Wars)
3. Replaced Evil Territory Enhancement Invoking Terror with Evil Dominant Strife (Deck I)
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2017, 09:58:00 AM »
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Ok cool. Invoking Terror is a really good card, especially with the new Moses from Cloud of Witnesses, so I would recommend keeping it in (it's better than Death of Jacob if you wanted to swap it out for that, as it's territory class and CBP).

Also, here's a question for you: how often do you pull off the Son of God-New Jerusalem combo in a game?
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2017, 10:00:09 AM »
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For this Decks strategy, I need Death of Jacob more than Invoking Terror.  I had that in there to even out the Evil cards and Good Cards.
I pull a lot of Sog, NJ combo nearly every time I play with this deck.
My other decks it happens from time to time.
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2017, 01:32:06 PM »
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The reason I asked is because with a 77-card deck like you have, the odds of pulling off SoG-NJ are much lower than a 50-56 card deck, unless you're specifically searching for them which it doesn't look like you are. I would suggest downloading Lackey, getting on there and playing some games, and letting your game experiences inform you what specific changes your deck needs. There are some really good players who are regularly on there - lots of lessons for us all to learn!  :)
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2017, 04:47:27 PM »
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Welcome! The best advice I can give you is get experience playing other people and the decks they've built. Lackey is a great tool for this. Learning strategies and why cards are good or bad will ultimately help you out the most and the best way to do that is to see decks in action.

Some general tips though.

Type 1 decks normally sit between 50 and 56 cards. That's because players want efficiency and consistency.

Almost every card in a deck actively tries to win a battle for you. If a card doesnt have the ability to directly make it to where you can win a lost soul or keep your opponent from doing so it usually isn't played. There are some exceptions for some support cards and Negate cards.

Character to enhancement Ratio matters. Right now you are really light on characters and heavy on enhancements. You need characters to win battles. Since most decks play many cards that actively try to win a battle (using cards that would get rid of an opposing character, etc) you can easily find yourself unable to rescue or block because they got rid of your options.

There are many good ideas here. Ultimately getting experience and seeing other decks and how they work are what will help you the most in choosing the best cards to use . Plus playing is fun so you can't lose just by trying.
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2017, 04:48:12 PM »
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Currently on Lackey I am having trouble with my deck working when I go to play a game.  It hasn't loaded to online yet.
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2017, 05:20:26 PM »
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Quote from: beefstew1 on January 21, 2017, 04:48:12 PM
Currently on Lackey I am having trouble with my deck working when I go to play a game.  It hasn't loaded to online yet.

I'm not really near a computer so I can't really get on to help but.

1. Make sure lackey is updated.
2. Once your deck is built in the deck builder portion and saved try to see if you can load the deck before going online.
(All you do there is new game then load recent deck and it should pull up the last deck you had open in the deck builder)
3. Connect to the lackey server using the instructions in the post for lackey. (I think kariusvega posted the link in a response to this thread)
4. It should connect and you should be good to play as long as other people are on. (There usually is. If not KariusVega nearly lives on lackey so wait a bit or type lfg lackey in the chat box that appears on the left side of the home page of the boards here. Someone will probably be able to connect with you for a game shortly thereafter.)
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2017, 11:51:00 AM »
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Got Lackey running thanks to a moderator from here I was versing on there.
Though he had to go because of weather.  He was a lot of help.
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Re: Gold/Pale Green
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2017, 03:47:05 PM »
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Shammah (Kings)
Replaced with Naharai (FooF IX)

Sling (KIngs)
Replaced with Kerith Ravine
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