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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #25 on: June 11, 2011, 05:20:37 PM »
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Maybe he thinks Paul is considered a disciple?

My disciple's deck doesn't use Passover Hymn...

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #26 on: June 11, 2011, 05:32:18 PM »
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i dont know a disciples deck that doesnt use passover hymn though, so there goes treachery (which i actually did use to discard treachery in the prep phase against the super turtle at nc)... :P

Not many I have seen actually use it (not sure why, it's pretty nice). Also, DD is pretty nice.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #27 on: June 11, 2011, 06:35:37 PM »
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i know all the top disciples decks at nc regionals were packing it. i think its one of the tastiest interrupts in the game...so much powerful versatility packed into one single card and solves all of the problems that can possibly stop thad. its also recurrable by matthew (which i did 3 times at regionals against the super turtle). definately a staple in my book.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #28 on: June 11, 2011, 08:39:23 PM »
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i know all the top disciples decks at nc regionals were packing it. i think its one of the tastiest interrupts in the game...so much powerful versatility packed into one single card and solves all of the problems that can possibly stop thad. its also recurrable by matthew (which i did 3 times at regionals against the super turtle). definately a staple in my book.

+1 All the kewl kids are using it.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #29 on: June 11, 2011, 09:33:16 PM »
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I use it too. I was just commenting that I didn't see it around much for whatever reason.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2011, 11:38:14 PM »
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I have never tried Saul in my Pharisee defense. Is there any value in converting him or is he there simply as a Grey Pharisee?

I would guess he put it in there because phars usually have a problem with TSA and BTN in general.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2011, 12:53:20 AM »
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Besieged helps with that one.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2011, 02:19:21 PM »
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Besieged takes up an artifact slot and requires drawing a number of pharisees to be effective. For a deck like this, imo, Saul is  the better choice.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2011, 11:26:16 AM »
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If you have a hard time getting 3 pharisees in battle then you are not playing a pharisee deck...IMO. Beseiged has worked beautifully in the decks I have included it in.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2011, 02:46:46 PM »
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If you have a hard time getting 3 pharisees in battle then you are not playing a pharisee deck...IMO. Beseiged has worked beautifully in the decks I have included it in.
The problem with that is that most decks that play phars are defense lite speed, so there's only a few characters to play with.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2011, 02:48:59 PM »
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on second thought, i think i would still put rdj in this deck...just load up the boat then drop it. also, i just now noticed...why is an ends of the earth in this deck?
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2011, 02:54:07 PM »
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So you can still speed when facing a lockout deck.  I don't think it's that crucial.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2011, 07:01:06 PM »
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Replacing the ends of the earth with ceasarea philippi seems effective.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2011, 07:19:31 PM »
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Replacing the ends of the earth with ceasarea philippi seems effective.

Yeah straight up but for a small deck like this double protection with HPP and CP might be too redundant. There are also a lot of dominant cards that might be nice to add instead such as; Burial, FA, Mayhem, Don, Goys, Grapes, or harvest time.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2011, 07:41:11 PM »
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triple protection: dont forget herods temple. the deck definately needs grapes too...any dom that gets under lampy and can be used defensively is a staple.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2011, 08:18:56 PM »
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This thread needs to get to atleast 8 pages before JDS reads it.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2011, 10:34:16 PM »
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Replacing the ends of the earth with ceasarea philippi seems effective.

Yeah straight up but for a small deck like this double protection with HPP and CP might be too redundant. There are also a lot of dominant cards that might be nice to add instead such as; Burial, FA, Mayhem, Don, Goys, Grapes, or harvest time.

I didn't even notice how low that was on dominants. I was just suggesting a (imo) better site option.

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #42 on: June 14, 2011, 09:08:25 AM »
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I took out Saul for Hopper per advice. Even if I get stuck with it in my LoB, it does still have the advantage of making the deck one card thinner (as was stated).

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2011, 12:17:33 PM »
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This thread needs to get to atleast 8 pages before JDS reads it.
I took out Saul for Hopper per advice. Even if I get stuck with it in my LoB, it does still have the advantage of making the deck one card thinner (as was stated).
Whoops.

Any thoughts on additional doms, JDS?
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2011, 05:07:06 PM »
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Harvest Time would stop Confusion of Mind and help generate souls.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2011, 05:14:54 PM »
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his naz stops harvest time.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2011, 05:17:16 PM »
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true. my bad.
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #47 on: June 15, 2011, 01:40:02 PM »
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It is still a good discard for Confusion of Mind...

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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2011, 02:04:11 PM »
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captured ark over ht, if he keeps naz...
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Re: Another Disciples/Pharisees Speed Deck
« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2011, 02:49:30 PM »
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True and "naz" is pretty important against several types of decks.

 


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