Author Topic: "A New Beginning" Question (Read 4464 times)

CountFount · « **on:** January 29, 2009, 03:01:15 PM »

Can you negate or interrupt "A New Beginning"?

s/a ALL players shuffle ALL cards in the field of play, set-aside areas and their hands (except this one) back into their draw pile. Only cards in Land of Redemption and discard piles remain. ALL players Draw 8 new cards. Holder may begin a new turn.

The Schaef · « **Reply #1 on:** January 29, 2009, 03:02:53 PM »

galadgawyn · « **Reply #2 on:** January 29, 2009, 03:04:56 PM »

You can prevent so you can negate before it is played. Once it is played the ability carries out and it is too late to negate or interrupt because the battle (and whole turn) is over. This is similar to end the battle cards like Heavy Taxes.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #3 on:** January 29, 2009, 03:52:15 PM »

Oh Heavy Taxes is CBN?

DaClock · « **Reply #4 on:** January 29, 2009, 03:53:24 PM »

No, it is CBI.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #5 on:** January 29, 2009, 04:15:37 PM »

Yeah, that's what I meant.

That's an interesting rule, though; I wasn't aware of it.

galadgawyn · « **Reply #6 on:** January 29, 2009, 04:15:46 PM »

Technically it is neither, it is just game rule that makes it CBI.

The Schaef · « **Reply #7 on:** January 29, 2009, 04:57:52 PM »

Correct. It's not that the card has a cannot-be-interrupted power. It's just that the battle is immediately ended and you have no opportunity to play a card in response.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #8 on:** January 29, 2009, 05:20:35 PM »

Yes, I understand that, thanks.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #9 on:** January 29, 2009, 06:07:40 PM »

I have had it ruled against me that because it was removing my opponent from battle he got the chance to interrupt/negate it like any other battle winner.

The Schaef · « **Reply #10 on:** January 29, 2009, 07:41:16 PM »

It's not "any other battle winner" because it's not really "winning" in the strictest sense. Heavy Taxes is a card that ends the battle and that cannot be interrupted, regardless of who "wins" the outcome.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #11 on:** January 29, 2009, 08:16:43 PM »

Is there a technical definition of "battle-winner?"

The Schaef · « **Reply #12 on:** January 29, 2009, 10:31:58 PM »

No, it's just a catch-all that people use for special abilities that defeat the other character - discard, capture, convert, whatever.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #13 on:** January 29, 2009, 10:37:09 PM »

I always considered end the battle abilities battle-winners....Perhaps that's a bad thing.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #14 on:** January 29, 2009, 10:44:36 PM »

They are. As long as you are winning the battle when you end it.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #15 on:** January 29, 2009, 11:09:50 PM »

I can't imagine using one while I wasn't winning.

I LOSE! HA! And there's nothing you can do about it!

The Schaef · « **Reply #16 on:** January 29, 2009, 11:49:17 PM »

I would do that if, for example, I was using Hormah.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2009, 10:44:48 PM »

except that ANB would send AoD back into your draw pile as well.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #18 on:** January 31, 2009, 01:14:59 AM »

If you use LaFS with AoD, you only get to discard one card, right? - since it was only one "draw."

Ironica · « **Reply #19 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:26:27 PM »

quick question. After you play it/shuffle everything/draw eight cards, do you draw another three cards since it's the beginning of your turn or is it like the very first turn where you just draw the eight?

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #20 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:31:10 PM »

I believe the person who restarts his turn gets to draw again. At least, that's how I remember doing it once, but I'm only like 75% sure on that.

sk · « **Reply #21 on:** February 01, 2009, 12:38:20 AM »

I always thought not since it's like starting the game over...

Ironica · « **Reply #22 on:** February 01, 2009, 12:54:38 AM »

Quote from: sk on February 01, 2009, 12:38:20 AM

I always thought not since it's like starting the game over...

If that's the case, I want to start all my games with three redeemed souls and half the opponent's defense gone

Master KChief · « **Reply #23 on:** February 01, 2009, 01:07:16 AM »

yes, you get to draw 3 additional cards.

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