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Offline YourMathTeacher

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Judas' opponent?
« on: December 19, 2009, 12:01:19 PM »
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In a mulitplayer game, can Judas Iscariot be discarded by a secondary opponent (one not in battle)? Judas' ability says "opponent's cards" not "opponents' cards."

i.e.

Player 1 RAs against Player 2, who blocks with Judas. Can Player 3 use AotL or Grapes on Judas?
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 12:11:09 PM »
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I would say that the outside player wouldn't be able to do that to him.
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009, 12:13:26 PM »
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I guess the question is the word "opponent's" which I thought only referred to the one I was blocking. Usually cards have to say "opponents' " (like Confusion of Mind) in order for multiplayer games to be affected.
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 12:14:11 PM »
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That is what I thought too.
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 12:15:25 PM »
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In that case, player 3 is not player 2's "opponent" and can discard Judas, right? Or am I confusing myself?
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 12:21:49 PM »
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When "opponent" is singular, it only refers to the opponent you are fighting in battle, so yes, another player can AotL or Grapes Judas.
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2009, 12:29:23 PM »
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it is singular, singular possesive. He is saying the person not in battle is playing Grapes or AotL. It wouldn't work...
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2009, 12:38:44 PM »
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I understand the scenario, and I'm saying yes, a different opponent can affect Judas. The fact that "opponent" is possessive makes no difference in determining its target.
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2009, 12:46:02 PM »
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Hey,

Quote from: BubbleBoy on December 19, 2009, 12:21:49 PM
When "opponent" is singular, it only refers to the opponent you are fighting in battle, so yes, another player can AotL or Grapes Judas.

This is correct.  Of note with Judas, since his ability if a for the rest of the game ability, he can accumulate opponents over the course of several turns.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2009, 01:34:35 PM »
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Quote from: SirNobody on December 19, 2009, 12:46:02 PM
Quote from: BubbleBoy on December 19, 2009, 12:21:49 PM
When "opponent" is singular, it only refers to the opponent you are fighting in battle, so yes, another player can AotL or Grapes Judas.

This is correct.  Of note with Judas, since his ability if a for the rest of the game ability, he can accumulate opponents over the course of several turns.

For example, if you use a CtB and give your opponent Judas to block with, for the remainder of the game Judas is protected from your own cards. Even if you are using him to block.
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2009, 02:28:06 PM »
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Thanks all. I've never had to rule Judas in a multiplayer, so I drew a blank (I guess I should have left the blank card out of my deck  ;) ).

Thanks to Schaef and RDT who answered my desperate PMs during a game.
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Re: Judas' opponent?
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2009, 03:04:02 PM »
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Quote from: YourMathTeacher on December 19, 2009, 02:28:06 PM
so I drew a blank (I guess I should have left the blank card out of my deck  ;) ).


I lol'd.
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