Author Topic: ignoring immunity (Read 2103 times)

Aelec Enitnel · « **on:** April 28, 2011, 10:32:19 PM »

Can I ignore someone if they're immune to me

Irish_Luck · « **Reply #1 on:** April 28, 2011, 11:00:12 PM »

Were they in battle before you ignored them? If so I don't think you can ignore them. If not then they can't enter battle for their ability to activate.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #2 on:** April 28, 2011, 11:14:34 PM »

Yes, if someone in battle is immune to you, playing an ignore card will result in a stalemate.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 29, 2011, 08:46:15 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on April 28, 2011, 11:14:34 PM

Yes, if someone in battle is immune to you, playing an ignore card will result in a stalemate.

And for completeness--if you somehow become immune to someone who is ignoring you the ignoring party wins the battle.

Aelec Enitnel · « **Reply #4 on:** April 29, 2011, 08:55:28 AM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on April 29, 2011, 08:46:15 AM

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on April 28, 2011, 11:14:34 PM
Yes, if someone in battle is immune to you, playing an ignore card will result in a stalemate.
And for completeness--if you somehow become immune to someone who is ignoring you the ignoring party wins the battle.

Is that contradicting RedDragonThorn?

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #5 on:** April 29, 2011, 09:01:01 AM »

No. RDT is saying if you're immune first (say, block with Red Dragon) and then you start to ignore them (No Need For Spices), then it is a stalemate.

Whereas if you ignore first (ie: let him block, play No Need For Spices) then let him become immune (ie: Balaam's Dis), then the ignorer wins.

Deck Metrics · « **Reply #6 on:** April 29, 2011, 09:20:18 AM »

Actually I don't think you can ignore a character that's immune to you, your enhancements can't even target or pick the immune character unless you interrupt their immunity or interrupt the battle.

Aelec Enitnel · « **Reply #7 on:** April 29, 2011, 09:27:30 AM »

Quote from: delarosajon on April 29, 2011, 09:20:18 AM

Actually I don't think you can ignore a character that's immune to you, your enhancements can't even target or pick the immune character unless you interrupt their immunity or interrupt the battle.

That's what I thought.
Also consider...
No Need for Spices (RA)
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: White • Ability: 3 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate evil immunity. Female N.T. Heroes ignore one evil brigade in battle. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Matthew 28:8 • Availability: Rock of Ages booster packs (None)

Gabe · « **Reply #8 on:** April 29, 2011, 10:10:12 AM »

RDT and MJB are both correct and don't contradict one another.

Deck Metrics · « **Reply #9 on:** April 29, 2011, 11:06:18 AM »

I'd like to know how you can ignore a character who's immune to your character if the Reg says:

Winning by Ignore/Immunity

Your Hero is winning by ignore if your Hero is ignoring the Evil Character(s) in battle. Your Hero is winning by immunity if the Hero is immune to the blocking Evil Character and the strength of your Hero greater than or equal to the blocking Evil Character’s toughness. Either way, your opponent has initiative and can play any evil enhancement of matching brigade. However, the special ability on the enhancement cannot be directed at a Hero that is immune to the Evil Character or is ignoring the Evil Character.

Gabe · « **Reply #10 on:** April 29, 2011, 11:14:40 AM »

If the Hero ignores a character that's already immune to them, it creates a stalemate. Ignore has multiple parts to it. One is that it makes the Hero immune to anything an ignored character does. Another is that it causes the ignored characters to have no effect on the battle (or keeps them from entering battle if they aren't already there). If the EC is already immune to the Hero, you cannot target them with the second part, but you can still be immune to them, which causes the stalemate.

Deck Metrics · « **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2011, 11:54:46 AM »

Quote from: Gabe on April 29, 2011, 11:14:40 AM

If the Hero ignores a character that's already immune to them, it creates a stalemate. Ignore has multiple parts to it. One is that it makes the Hero immune to anything an ignored character does. Another is that it causes the ignored characters to have no effect on the battle (or keeps them from entering battle if they aren't already there). If the EC is already immune to the Hero, you cannot target them with the second part, but you can still be immune to them, which causes the stalemate.

So in order for a character to ignore another character of opposite alignment with immunity, that character has to be immune prior to the other character entering battle? Like Nero, Philistine Garrison, Prince of This World & Red Dragon? If one character gains immunity during battle the opposite character 'can' ignore them? That's the only exception to ignoring an "immune" character?

Ironica · « **Reply #12 on:** April 29, 2011, 06:24:34 PM »

Also if the hero interupts Red Dragon and ignores him before RD's ability reactivates, the hero would win.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #13 on:** April 29, 2011, 10:16:57 PM »

The REG already covers this situation:

Ongoing Special Abilities > Ignore or Repel > Special Conditions
• A stalemate results when an ignore card is played after and against an immunity card. However, if the ignore card is played before the immunity card, the ignore will win. In other words, a character can’t become immune to a character that is already ignoring that character. Conversely, a character that is already immune continues to be immune even if ignored. Therefore, the result is a stalemate.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 29, 2011, 10:35:43 PM »

Yeah--but quoting the REG is kinda cheating, isn't it?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #15 on:** April 29, 2011, 10:41:04 PM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on April 29, 2011, 10:35:43 PM

Yeah--but quoting the REG is kinda cheating, isn't it?

Actually it is more like "showing my age." I may as well quote the original DSM.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #16 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:27:36 AM »

Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders?

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #17 on:** May 01, 2011, 12:34:02 AM »

I think he meant argumentum ad verecundiam.

CountFount · « **Reply #18 on:** May 01, 2011, 08:19:29 AM »

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on May 01, 2011, 12:34:02 AM

I think he meant argumentum ad verecundiam.

Matt please PM meanings of those words or pictures. We need to Errata the boards to stop words over 4 syllables.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2011, 01:14:11 PM »

For those not following, The DSM has been revised many times since the original version came out back in the 1960's. The current version, I believe, is the DSM-IV (Roman numerals). In the original version, homosexuality was listed as a mental disorder. It has since been removed, and is considered "normal."

I was merely eluding to the fact that quoting the REG may be seen as archaic, seeing as it is known to contain outdated rulings.

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Author Topic: ignoring immunity (Read 2103 times)

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