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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2011, 12:22:19 PM »
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I would say no. Cards do not reset when set aside or removed from the game, but they are rest when returned to deck or hand.
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2011, 02:05:28 PM »
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Quote from: Professoralstad on March 01, 2011, 06:43:14 PM
That Play As is one of the ones that needs an update to make it clearer. It's supposed to be interpreted as: "Your [opponent's] hand size [limits are] 1 less than [they] would normally be."
I agree with the "other Prof" (assuming that he meant to include the red parts that I added).
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2011, 02:09:33 PM »
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So, would that also include the max hand size (decreased to 15?)

Also: Is this official?
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2011, 02:28:11 PM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on July 20, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
So, would that also include the max hand size (decreased to 15?)

Also: Is this official?
Only if another Elder posts here backing this up :)
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2011, 02:32:59 PM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on July 20, 2011, 02:09:33 PM
So, would that also include the max hand size (decreased to 15?)


Possibly, but not as far as I know.

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Also: Is this official?

I'd say yes for now. "Reduce opponent's hand" doesn't really have an official definition AFAIK, but it has been understood for the past 13? years since Warriors came out to mean what my suggested play as said. However, it would probably be updated to this given the new usage of restrict abilities:

"Restrict opponent from having more than 7 cards in hand (or 9 if Tables of the Law is active) at the end of each of his turns, until this character is discarded."

In any case, I can be fairly certain that at Nationals or any future tournament, D&H will not force your opponent to discard any cards above 7, nor will it stop opponents from drawing beyond 7 cards. So hopefully none of you are expecting to build decks based on that.
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #30 on: July 20, 2011, 02:59:03 PM »
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Quote from: Professoralstad on July 20, 2011, 02:32:59 PM
In any case, I can be fairly certain that at Nationals or any future tournament, D&H will not force your opponent to discard any cards above 7, nor will it stop opponents from drawing beyond 7 cards. So hopefully none of you are expecting to build decks based on that.

People built decks based on the fact Angry mob doesn't say that the heroes are placed back face up. Someone will place this card to force the ruling.
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #31 on: July 20, 2011, 03:07:49 PM »
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Anyone is more than welcome to do that. But there is little chance that it will work out for him/her. Just sayin'.
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #32 on: July 20, 2011, 03:12:06 PM »
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Quote from: Alex_Olijar on July 20, 2011, 02:59:03 PM
People built decks based on the fact Angry mob doesn't say that the heroes are placed back face up. Someone will place this card to force the ruling.

His name is John Earley. :)
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #33 on: July 20, 2011, 03:20:56 PM »
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Yeah he tried that on me..lasted all of 5 seconds :P
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #34 on: July 20, 2011, 07:51:04 PM »
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The "play-as" is not an errata. Errata is meant to change the original ability of the card, such as A New Beginning requiring the battle to be a rescue attempt. The play as (which is obviously worthless as is because it's so terribly worded) IS a play-as once it's fixed, not an errata. It's just saying what the special ability means.
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Re: Death and Hades question
« Reply #35 on: July 20, 2011, 07:57:16 PM »
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Quote from: lightningninja on July 20, 2011, 07:51:04 PM
Errata is meant to change the original ability of the card, such as A New Beginning requiring the battle to be a rescue attempt.

That's your daddy's errata.  Just like his oldsmobile, it's ancient and worthless compared to new errata.


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