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Offline SomeKittens

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Re: ANB and Artifacts
« Reply #100 on: May 02, 2011, 11:27:11 PM »
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Quote from: Gabe on April 09, 2011, 11:49:30 PM
I dug up Tim's ruling on the placed enhancements, which includes his reasoning.  As far as I know it's the only elder ruling on the topic.

Quote from: SirNobody on September 06, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
Hey,

With all of the "place an enhancement on a character, it activates when that character enters battle" abilities the player that placed the enhancement carries it out even if an opponent controls the character it is on when that happens.  So this won't work like you want it to with those cards.  Sent to Serve is worded slightly differently so it might work, but I'm not sure.

Tschow,

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Some of the elders are discussing this.  When a conclusion is reached one of us will let the community know.
Any update?  It's been a month.
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Re: ANB and Artifacts
« Reply #101 on: May 03, 2011, 03:29:07 PM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on May 02, 2011, 07:40:27 PM
Yes. Banding is the only ability that you can't use to force two of the same unique character, because it has a specific exception in the rule. Any other ability can be used to force a situation in which you must Discard all but one of the unique characters you control.

Speaking with full apreciate of Daniel answering my question and total respect for his thorough knowledge of the rules, does anyone have other sources on this?

I was not, in a brief search of the REG, able to find such a situation referenced and would like further evidence to point to in the event that it comes up at some approaching tournaments.
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Re: ANB and Artifacts
« Reply #102 on: May 03, 2011, 03:33:02 PM »
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Quote from: SomeKittens on May 02, 2011, 11:27:11 PM
Quote from: Gabe on April 09, 2011, 11:49:30 PM
I dug up Tim's ruling on the placed enhancements, which includes his reasoning.  As far as I know it's the only elder ruling on the topic.

Quote from: SirNobody on September 06, 2010, 07:48:09 PM
Hey,

With all of the "place an enhancement on a character, it activates when that character enters battle" abilities the player that placed the enhancement carries it out even if an opponent controls the character it is on when that happens.  So this won't work like you want it to with those cards.  Sent to Serve is worded slightly differently so it might work, but I'm not sure.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Some of the elders are discussing this.  When a conclusion is reached one of us will let the community know.
Any update?  It's been a month.

What you see here is the standing ruling unless you hear otherwise.
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Re: ANB and Artifacts
« Reply #103 on: May 03, 2011, 04:16:56 PM »
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Quote from: JDS on May 03, 2011, 03:29:07 PM
Quote from: Minister Polarius on May 02, 2011, 07:40:27 PM
Yes. Banding is the only ability that you can't use to force two of the same unique character, because it has a specific exception in the rule. Any other ability can be used to force a situation in which you must Discard all but one of the unique characters you control.

Speaking with full apreciate of Daniel answering my question and total respect for his thorough knowledge of the rules, does anyone have other sources on this?

About the banding being an exception part?  We have...

Quote from: SirNobody on April 27, 2011, 10:40:45 PM
There are two sides to the duplicate characters rule.  The more commonly implemented one is the rule that restricts me from having more than one copy of a unique character that I control.  The less common side is that two copies of the same unique character cannot be in the same battle at the same time.

The second side stems from the idea that you can't block a converted Goliath with a non-converted Goliath, and doesn't have anything to do with control of the character so it is necessary in addition to the first side.  (It's not necessary in that the game would explode without it but rather that the duplicate characters rule as it has been since it's inception would be significantly different without it.)
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Re: ANB and Artifacts
« Reply #104 on: May 03, 2011, 07:29:56 PM »
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I was not, in a brief search of the REG, able to find such a situation referenced and would like further evidence to point to in the event that it comes up at some approaching tournaments.
I believe it's in the rulebook, not the REG.
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Re: ANB and Artifacts
« Reply #105 on: May 03, 2011, 08:37:04 PM »
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Quote from: Minister Polarius on May 03, 2011, 07:29:56 PM
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I was not, in a brief search of the REG, able to find such a situation referenced and would like further evidence to point to in the event that it comes up at some approaching tournaments.
I believe it's in the rulebook, not the REG.

Page 10 to be exact.
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