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« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2015, 10:37:27 PM »
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Luke,

I'll wait for the list.  Thanks

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2015, 06:06:12 AM »
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All of of them, I have 110+ cards and 9 of them are Holofoil. The cards include:
Infernal Flame Emperor $4
Ultimate Tyranno $2
Toon World $2
Kiseitai $1
Exploder dragon $1.50
Lord of D. x 3 $9
The Flute of Summoning Dragon x 2 $8
Phantom Beast of Wild Horn $2
Black Tyranno $2
Swift Gaia the Fierce Knight x 2 $4
And Many, Many other cards, all for trade/sale!
Thanks,
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Luke,

you mentioned that for the 110+ cards and 9 of them are Holofoil you could sell them to me for $25 or trade for $35

I did my research.  I still am missing specifics.  I need to know which release.  I need to know which rarity.  In some cases I need to know which color.

E-bay is not a price list like ThreeLionsGaming . com

but priceless sites for Yugioh do exist without the additional information I'm coming up with (prices in purple):
Infernal Flame Emperor $4 don't need additional information on this one $0.18
Ultimate Tyranno $2 $0.10
Toon World $2 $0.14
Kiseitai $1 $0.10
Exploder dragon $1.50 $0.37
Lord of D. x 3 $9 $0.17 x 3 = $0.51
The Flute of Summoning Dragon x 2 $8 $0.15 x 2 = $0.30
Phantom Beast of Wild Horn $2 Phantom Beast Wild-Horn don't need additional information on this one $0.20
Black Tyranno $2 $0.09
Swift Gaia the Fierce Knight x 2 $4 $0.15 x 2 = $0.30

I'm coming up with total value $2.29 if you can provide with additional information they may be more valuable. Just based on this information, although with additional information they won't go as high as $35.  I'll pay $8 for the 110+ cards and 9 of them are Holofoil or I'll give you $12 in trade for them.  If you are willing to give me set they were released in, rarity, and color where appropriate I can give you a better offer.

Please let me know what you want to do with the Yugioh cards.

I'll research the Pokemon collection when I get home from work today in about 8 or 9 hours.  Time to leave for work.  Thanks

Steven

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2015, 08:55:04 AM »
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Where did you get these prices from?

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2015, 11:14:04 AM »
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What's in the pokemon collection? I can pretty easily independently verify the value.

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2015, 12:49:19 PM »
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Where did you get these prices from?

I believe he said that he got the prices from eBay. I checked the Infernal Emperor one just to verify. The most recent one that sold was 35 cents (free shipping). There is a current active auction ending in 9 hours that has three of the Emperors, and it is at 50 cents ($1 shipping). So I'm not sure where his 18 cents came from, unless he is giving you half price values.

Another question, of course, is where did you get your values from LukeChips?
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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2015, 12:53:42 PM »
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My 2 cents...

For Pokemon I would use www.trollandtoad.com
For Yu-Gi-Oh! I would use www.alterealitygames.com
For Magic I would use www.starcitygames.com

These are fairly reliable sites and tend to be middle of the road on fair prices for trading.
Obviously using E-Bay will get you the lowest comcmon denominator but for trading, consistency is more important than lowest price.

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« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2015, 01:21:39 PM »
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My 2 cents...

For Pokemon I would use www.trollandtoad.com
For Yu-Gi-Oh! I would use www.alterealitygames.com
For Magic I would use www.starcitygames.com

These are fairly reliable sites and tend to be middle of the road on fair prices for trading.
Obviously using E-Bay will get you the lowest comcmon denominator but for trading, consistency is more important than lowest price.

For comparison, Alter Reality Games has the Infernal Emperor valued at 38 cents, so that is pretty close to eBay.
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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2015, 01:57:44 PM »
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Yugioh has the same cards at ifferent rarities. Many of my cars are the rarer versions, that is why my infernal flame emperor is more expensive

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2015, 02:27:58 PM »
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My 2 cents...

For Pokemon I would use www.trollandtoad.com
For Yu-Gi-Oh! I would use www.alterealitygames.com
For Magic I would use www.starcitygames.com

These are fairly reliable sites and tend to be middle of the road on fair prices for trading.
Obviously using E-Bay will get you the lowest comcmon denominator but for trading, consistency is more important than lowest price.

Yeah, if you are trading trollandtoad is a good pokemon site. They tend to be the highest price on the market, but they also deal in the highest quantity. Like I said, I'd be more than happy to help verify any potential prices or deals and fair on the pokemon side, because there are some weird irregularities in the market and the next set is about to drop in three weeks, so some prices are about to get messed up.

Yugioh has the same cards at ifferent rarities. Many of my cars are the rarer versions, that is why my infernal flame emperor is more expensive

You need to give him all the information then. He's been asking for it in various forms, but without it, can't properly value anything.

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2015, 02:37:34 PM »
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I already sent him a spreadsheet with all that info.

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2015, 03:01:35 PM »
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Yugioh has the same cards at ifferent rarities. Many of my cars are the rarer versions, that is why my infernal flame emperor is more expensive

Alter Reality Games has all the versions with their rarities listed. The other one I checked was the Flute of Summoning Dragon, which had about 15 different versions. However, none of them was priced higher than $1.15. You still have not explained where you got your $8 value from. Was it a website?
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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2015, 03:20:29 PM »
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I averaged all the prices on ebay, times 3 was $8. Donr take this he wrong way, but I would like it if you would stay in your own trade. Thanks for the website.

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2015, 03:21:53 PM »
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I'm fairly certain he used www.tcgplayer.com, which pulls from the low/median/high values of all vendor prices and not just one independent source.
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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #38 on: January 19, 2015, 03:23:21 PM »
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Sorry, but when you trade in a community it's actually everyone's business. One of the reasons this form of trading works is because we are able to self police ourselves across the board. Any time one bad trade happens, it changes every trade by discrediting the website for trading as a whole.

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #39 on: January 19, 2015, 03:44:19 PM »
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Luke, if you don't want to be picked apart and exposed to the criticism on the open forum, then just keep all of your trading in PM. Even though I have played Yugioh for over a decade and could tell all of your prices were super inflated, I decided to keep my mouth shut because it is ultimately your call and certainly no one else's place to tell you how to value your own cards. Especially considering the trade doesn't concern me. The only 'bad' trading is the one where one party gets ripped. Negotiating prices is far removed from that.

Just be aware though, there is little reason for anyone to spring for your prices if they know where to find the same card for far cheaper.
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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #40 on: January 19, 2015, 03:52:15 PM »
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What MtG format do you want cards for?  Magic has a much larger card base and what cards you want is very different based on what format you are building decks for. 

If you have questions about MtG rules, deckbuilding, etc. I can help with that.  I might have some cards to trade but again some more info about your goals would be helpful.

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #41 on: January 19, 2015, 04:08:13 PM »
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I averaged all the prices on ebay, times 3 was $8.

The ten most recent eBay sales of Flute of Summoning Dragon average around $1.30. I'm not sure why you would multiply by three since you said you had two of them.

Donr take this he wrong way, but I would like it if you would stay in your own trade.

LOL. Those who have known me since I first came to the Message Board can attest that I have always been vocal about fair trading. I certainly won't stop now for the very reason that Alex stated. Although I respect MKC and his opinion, I disagree that all trading should be kept in PM, since that is where deception can occur.

Now realize that I am not accusing you of trying to rip off whiteandgold, since neither of you seem to be using published prices. He had the Flute valued at 15 cents, which is certainly not justified by eBay prices (which is what he claimed to use). Frankly it seems like you guys will have to barter your way down/up to the published prices eventually. Having exposure to websites that reveal customary values will help expedite your negotiations. Kudos to uthminister and MKC for providing these websites.  ;D
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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #42 on: January 19, 2015, 04:24:03 PM »
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I'm fairly certain he used www.tcgplayer.com, which pulls from the low/median/high values of all vendor prices and not just one independent source.

All,

I did use www.tcgplayer.com because it pulls from the low/median/high values of all vendor prices and not just one independent source.  That being said, Swift Gaia the Fierce Night, had at least 7 different sets it was released in, and the price fluctuates from $0.15 to $1.16 depending on which release it came from.  I was not provided with release information, so i'm taking the lowest price since I haven't seen Luke's cards to know which one specifically he has.  There also appears to be 5 are more rarities that are considered rare or more rare, and again, I don't know which one specifically he has.

Luke had told me that he had used eBay to price his prices.

I will respond to more on any questions here in the next few hours, just got home from work need to go run a few quick errands.  Thanks

Steven

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #43 on: January 19, 2015, 04:33:50 PM »
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I made sure that I had the right rarities of the cards I found on Ebay

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #44 on: January 19, 2015, 04:38:23 PM »
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I made sure that I had the right rarities of the cards I found on Ebay

That's fine. I'm sure you guys can work it out,  especially now that you know where each of you are getting your prices from.   ;D
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« Reply #45 on: January 19, 2015, 04:44:52 PM »
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I made sure that I had the right rarities of the cards I found on Ebay

That's fine. I'm sure you guys can work it out,  especially now that you know where each of you are getting your prices from.   ;D
Thanks for the input :)

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Re: Do you have Pokemon or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #46 on: January 20, 2015, 09:37:17 AM »
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All,

Luke provided me with actual card numbers, and I now know which release they were from, and thus far we are only talking about Yugioh cards.

Luke,

you were done with the list when it was worth $35 when that came back being worth $2.29 you changed the offer, I assumed you were done with the list when it was then worth $33.60 you wanted me then to research ASAP (hence the new offer), and I got you to provide me the codes which gave me the real values, and when I gave you the value of the 30+ cards at $13 ish, you are telling me that you are not done with the list (yet another deal).  So you are changing the original offer yet again.  I'm not playing games with making an offer.  That's why I'm willing to offer you $20 in trade final offer on Yugioh for the 110+ Yugioh 9 are holofoil cards from the original offer, or if you prefer I'll pay $10 real money which is $2 more than the last offer I made.  Or, keep the Yugioh cards and we can focus on Pokemon only. 

I don't favor changing a deal 2 or more times, and my offer was contingent upon research due to my lack of knowledge in the subject area, and my knowledge in the subject areas for all 3 types of cards is growing rapidly.  And, I don't hold any ill will against you for changing that deal 2 or more times, because you may not realize that you were doing that, but for future reference that is what was being done.  Everything is still good between you and me, I am a fair trader.

Please let me know when the list on Pokemon is complete so that I can ask questions, and then I'll do my research to determine if its worth $200, and we can go from there, and yes I agree that the full art card in Pokemon is valued at $23, but I'm not going to research Pokemon any further until you can tell me that the list on Pokemon is complete. I can then ask my questions, you can answer them, and then I'll proceed with researching prices to see if we are still at $200.

Please let me know how to proceed.

What MtG format do you want cards for?  Magic has a much larger card base and what cards you want is very different based on what format you are building decks for. 

If you have questions about MtG rules, deckbuilding, etc. I can help with that.  I might have some cards to trade but again some more info about your goals would be helpful.

galadgawyn,

I'm building on all formats in magic since that is one of the biggest CCG's here in central florida, and as most can attest to I play most formats in redemption currently, i'm not the highest level player in redemption, like top 5 or top ten in a category, but there are categories that I have landed for the year near the bottom of the top ten, so I am a competitive player, and I pride myself in thinking of decks outside of the box, within rules of the game.  This one of the reasons why I think I place as high as I do in the first place.  With Magic I'm interested in all card formats to start out with.  The gaming center where I am starting to play, and I explained to them that I'm starting out and don't have a lot of money to sink into this in the beginning actually gave me a basic Jace Beleren starter deck that will teach me how to play the game that I was planning to open today so I can start learning the game.  That being said though, I intend to play in 3 or 4 of the 4 formats that I've heard about in Magic over time.  Please let me know what if any cards you have that you would be willing to trade for redemption cards.

Steven
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Re: Do you have Pokemon, Yugioh or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #47 on: January 20, 2015, 09:52:26 AM »
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All,

all PM's have been replied to.

all posts on this thread have been replied to.

Steven

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Re: Do you have Pokemon, Yugioh or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #48 on: January 20, 2015, 01:08:06 PM »
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Re: Do you have Pokemon, Yugioh or Magic (MTG) cards to trade?
« Reply #49 on: January 20, 2015, 05:10:20 PM »
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Luke,

PM replied to.

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