Author Topic: The Elite Eight - The Angel Under the Oak or Phinehas, Son of Eleazar (Read 3070 times)

Bryon · « **on:** March 19, 2012, 12:11:36 PM »

Which is the better Redemption hero?

Red Wing · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2012, 12:15:49 PM »

Angel under the Oak. This shouldn't be close.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #2 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:18:31 PM »

And there goes my favorite Teal hero....

Wings of Music · « **Reply #3 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:21:53 PM »

Redemption really needs to print another good teal hero...

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2012, 01:22:50 PM »

The Teal Heroes are fine, what Teal really needs is a reprint of Tabernacle and a reprint of Sol's temple. As of now Z's or Herod's do the exact same thing plus a lot more.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:24:02 PM »

As "fast" as Teal is, I think that they need a D3 hero to be viable. Almost every top deck will have at least one hero who can D3. The closest thing Teal his is Jehoida, but he's D3 one turn later.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2012, 02:46:34 PM »

I use AUTO in my T2 deck, which is the best deck anyone could possibly build, but not Phin. Therefore, AUTO wins.

Also, I never realized The Angel Under The Oak would have such a cool acronym if you disregard one "the."

TimMierz · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:41:50 PM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on March 19, 2012, 02:46:34 PM

Also, I never realized The Angel Under The Oak would have such a cool acronym if you disregard one "the."

It's still good if you include the other "The".

The study of a Samuel-based deck is TAUTO-logy.

STAMP · « **Reply #8 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:48:12 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 19, 2012, 02:24:02 PM

As "fast" as Teal is, I think that they need a D3 hero to be viable. Almost every top deck will have at least one hero who can D3. The closest thing Teal his is Jehoida, but he's D3 one turn later.

NO. MORE. D-anything!

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #9 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:49:01 PM »

No. I'm done with logic forever. Everything about it. I was fine doing the easy stuff, but my logic professor decided he wanted to try teaching me second-order logic. That did not end well.

I was starting to learn programming, but no. Never again. No.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #10 on:** March 19, 2012, 04:50:32 PM »

Actually there are some pretty logical reasons to avoid logic.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #11 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:06:52 PM »

I know I'm not going to win this argument, but I'm voting for Phineas.

AUTO is great for getting out a different hero and setting him up to be able to win a LS. But AUTO himself virtually never wins a LS.

Phineas on the other hand wins LSs all the time.

When it comes to a greater hero, I'm gonna go with the won who actually rescues over the set-up guy.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #12 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:41:24 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 19, 2012, 05:06:52 PM

I know I'm not going to win this argument, but I'm voting for Phineas.

AUTO is great for getting out a different hero and setting him up to be able to win a LS. But AUTO himself virtually never wins a LS.

Phineas on the other hand wins LSs all the time.

When it comes to a greater hero, I'm gonna go with the won who actually rescues over the set-up guy.

AUtO with Wheel Within a Wheel is roughly equal to Phinehas I think. Phinehas can use Zeal CBN, yes, but AUtO (with Wheel) has the capture protection that Phinehas has (well, not technically, but Charms and Writ don't work), and it can't exactly be negated. Plus, AUtO can't get hit by Christian Martyr. When you factor in the fact that he's a CBN +2, I think that pushes him ahead of Phinehas just on a hero vs. hero basis. Now, add everything else AUtO can do, and it's no contest.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #13 on:** March 19, 2012, 05:43:13 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 19, 2012, 05:41:24 PM

Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 19, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
I know I'm not going to win this argument, but I'm voting for Phineas.

AUTO is great for getting out a different hero and setting him up to be able to win a LS. But AUTO himself virtually never wins a LS.

Phineas on the other hand wins LSs all the time.

When it comes to a greater hero, I'm gonna go with the won who actually rescues over the set-up guy.

AUtO with Wheel Within a Wheel is roughly equal to Phinehas I think. Phinehas can use Zeal CBN, yes, but AUtO (with Wheel) has the capture protection that Phinehas has (well, not technically, but Charms and Writ don't work), and it can't exactly be negated. Plus, AUtO can't get hit by Christian Martyr. When you factor in the fact that he's a CBN +2, I think that pushes him ahead of Phinehas just on a hero vs. hero basis. Now, add everything else AUtO can do, and it's no contest.

The problem with Prof Oak staying in battle is he's silver.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #14 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:39:10 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on March 19, 2012, 05:43:13 PM

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 19, 2012, 05:41:24 PM
Quote from: Prof Underwood on March 19, 2012, 05:06:52 PM
I know I'm not going to win this argument, but I'm voting for Phineas.

AUTO is great for getting out a different hero and setting him up to be able to win a LS. But AUTO himself virtually never wins a LS.

Phineas on the other hand wins LSs all the time.

When it comes to a greater hero, I'm gonna go with the won who actually rescues over the set-up guy.

AUtO with Wheel Within a Wheel is roughly equal to Phinehas I think. Phinehas can use Zeal CBN, yes, but AUtO (with Wheel) has the capture protection that Phinehas has (well, not technically, but Charms and Writ don't work), and it can't exactly be negated. Plus, AUtO can't get hit by Christian Martyr. When you factor in the fact that he's a CBN +2, I think that pushes him ahead of Phinehas just on a hero vs. hero basis. Now, add everything else AUtO can do, and it's no contest.
The problem with Prof Oak staying in battle is he's silver.

Yeah, because a single teal hero in play is much better.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #15 on:** March 19, 2012, 06:41:40 PM »

Phineas can't play Witness to Creation.

Checkmate, AUTO haters.

Master KChief · « **Reply #16 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:20:28 PM »

AUTO can't play Phinehas' Spear. King me.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #17 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:21:57 PM »

Neither of them can play Chess or Checkers.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #18 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:27:26 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 19, 2012, 08:21:57 PM

Neither of them can play Chess or Checkers.

Yeah, but AuTO has a better acronym. YAHTZEE!!!!

SomeKittens · « **Reply #19 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:33:23 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 19, 2012, 08:27:26 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 19, 2012, 08:21:57 PM
Neither of them can play Chess or Checkers.

Yeah, but AuTO has a better acronym. YAHTZEE!!!!

Ben Crowshaw?

/Ten points to anyone who knows who that is
//No Googling, that's cheating.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #20 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:36:05 PM »

Priests packs are hard to open. Tin sets aren't.

Manner mule.

Drrek · « **Reply #21 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:38:35 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on March 19, 2012, 08:33:23 PM

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on March 19, 2012, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: SomeKittens on March 19, 2012, 08:21:57 PM
Neither of them can play Chess or Checkers.

Yeah, but AuTO has a better acronym. YAHTZEE!!!!
Ben Crowshaw?

/Ten points to anyone who knows who that is
//No Googling, that's cheating.

Yay, I get 10 points. (he's a video game reviewer who does weekly video reviews for the escapist that are released on Wednesdays, although he started with a couple of youtube before he worked for the escapist) What are the points good for?

SomeKittens · « **Reply #22 on:** March 19, 2012, 08:45:24 PM »

You get to decide who I vote for next round.

Bobbert · « **Reply #23 on:** March 20, 2012, 08:25:06 AM »

Quote from: Rawrlolsauce! on March 19, 2012, 08:36:05 PM

Priests packs are hard to open. Tin sets aren't.

Manner mule.

Ah, but the plastic wrapping inside the tins are arguably harder to open then Priests packs.

Also, Phin is less likely to have a chipped corner when you first get him.

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Author Topic: The Elite Eight - The Angel Under the Oak or Phinehas, Son of Eleazar (Read 3070 times)

Rawrlolsauce!

Rawrlolsauce!

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Warrior_Monk

Chronic Apathy

Rawrlolsauce!

Chronic Apathy

Rawrlolsauce!