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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #150 on: August 29, 2011, 01:38:26 PM »
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I'd be surprised if a modern top deck only drew 16 cards extra per game.  (unless you're using search heavy themes like Genesis).  That just seems low to me.

You want a way to counter speed? Make it like MTG. When you run out of cards in your deck, you lose. Speed just got nerfed, or people will start building HUGE speed decks.
There are some great games which don't even start until the endgame.  While they're few and far between, they can get crazy intense with strategy.
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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #151 on: August 29, 2011, 01:41:12 PM »
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I don't like the idea much either but thats the only way you will ever truly get rid of speed decks. As long as SOG/NJ exist it will always be a race to get those cards before your opponent, therefore speed will exist

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #152 on: August 29, 2011, 01:42:49 PM »
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A much better fix would be to play to 6.  You'd need to modify the deckbuilding (# of LS's)
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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #153 on: August 29, 2011, 02:26:47 PM »
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For years players have advocated either playing to 6 LS or banning NJ. I still stand behind that sentiment.

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #154 on: August 29, 2011, 02:39:42 PM »
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Given the higher ratio, it'll lessen the impact of soul droughts.
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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #155 on: August 29, 2011, 04:31:08 PM »
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60 card minimum, 8 ls in your deck, ban NJ.

That might help.

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #156 on: August 29, 2011, 04:39:09 PM »
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60 card minimum, 8 ls in your deck, ban NJ.

That might help.

You would need to have 1:15 hour rounds at tournaments in T1 though. What's the point of that?

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #157 on: August 29, 2011, 05:35:12 PM »
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There's not really a strong sentiment for both upping deck size and banning NJ, just one or the other.
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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #158 on: August 29, 2011, 05:59:22 PM »
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For years players have advocated either playing to 6 LS or banning NJ. I still stand behind that sentiment.

Kirk

If the LS count goes to 6 Confusion and Gibeonite Curse will become the best cards in the game, there's no chance of you rescuing 6 without SoG / Nj against a real defense.

Banning Nj on the other hand... *cough*

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #159 on: August 29, 2011, 06:10:52 PM »
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Playing to 6 would accompany a 60 card deck minimum.
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #160 on: August 29, 2011, 06:27:30 PM »
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Playing to 6 would accompany a 60 card deck minimum.

I don't see how this changes anything, Speed would get a boost because you wouldn't have to pick between speed and power anymore, you have enough space to get both.
Defense heavy decks would be amazing, and probably dominate the metagame.
Balanced decks would lose out because they wouldn't have the speed or power to get 6, and their mediocre defense would fail to both the speed deck and defensive deck.

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #161 on: August 29, 2011, 07:55:45 PM »
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I can see it now... 100+card double Job decks, maybe a TGT splash... and the rest an impenetrable defense.

What a great idea!  ::)
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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #162 on: August 29, 2011, 10:34:05 PM »
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If it were impenetrable people would be using it now regardless of a race to 5 or 6 with or without NJ.

What are you going to do strand them at 2 using NJ? No defense is impenetrable.

As a player new to competitive play I would be all for a 6-soul game and I honestly never liked NJ. Even before competing.
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #163 on: August 29, 2011, 10:50:55 PM »
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What are you going to do strand them at 2 using NJ? No defense is impenetrable.
Impenetrable from everything except the draw...

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #164 on: August 29, 2011, 10:53:46 PM »
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And semi-miscalculated plays (mistakes).  ;)
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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #165 on: August 29, 2011, 11:13:49 PM »
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And semi-miscalculated plays (mistakes).  ;)
I prefer the term play-style judgements.

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Re: First Impressions on the New Set
« Reply #166 on: August 30, 2011, 12:58:35 AM »
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I prefer the term play-style judgements.

Makes it sound “Pretty”
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.

 


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