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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #100 on: July 13, 2011, 09:04:30 AM »
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Off the current topic, but Iron Pan "negates all protect immune, draw, ignore, and play abilities"
Aren't Immune and Ignore already protect abilities?
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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #101 on: July 13, 2011, 10:01:43 AM »
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Quote from: Aelec Enitnel on July 13, 2011, 09:04:30 AM
Off the current topic, but Iron Pan "negates all protect immune, draw, ignore, and play abilities"
Aren't Immune and Ignore already protect abilities?
In a way, yes.  They are in the same extended family, but they have different last names.  Since we are targeting special abilities, we had to be specific.

This is different from "Cannot be negated" covering against the entire negate family (Negate, Interrupt, and Prevent).
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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #102 on: July 13, 2011, 01:12:16 PM »
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Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on July 12, 2011, 11:46:14 PM
I'm sure that's true, it just seemed like the majority of the consistently active board members knew more than the rest.  Albeit not that a lot was revealed (to me anyway), but with the amount of people hinting that they had "special knowledge," made it seem like very few didn't have a card list.  Again, I'm sure you are 100% right that it really is a minority, it just kind of felt the opposite. :)

Carry On,

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Just because someone hints that they know something, doesn't mean that they do. I'd bet that a good deal of the "edited by ROSES" jokes are just jokes, without any actual content to back them up. Also, it's really easy to talk smack once you've figured out what a few of the spoilers are either from playtester posts or the official articles.

For example, based on what I've seen leaked, I wouldn't be surprised if there's not a single NT card in this set. And if there are any, they're probably in the vast minority.
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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #103 on: July 14, 2011, 01:18:14 PM »
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Quote from: Arch Angel on July 13, 2011, 01:12:16 PM
Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on July 12, 2011, 11:46:14 PM
I'm sure that's true, it just seemed like the majority of the consistently active board members knew more than the rest.  Albeit not that a lot was revealed (to me anyway), but with the amount of people hinting that they had "special knowledge," made it seem like very few didn't have a card list.  Again, I'm sure you are 100% right that it really is a minority, it just kind of felt the opposite. :)

Carry On,

-C_S
Just because someone hints that they know something, doesn't mean that they do. I'd bet that a good deal of the "edited by ROSES" jokes are just jokes, without any actual content to back them up. Also, it's really easy to talk smack once you've figured out what a few of the spoilers are either from playtester posts or the official articles.

For example, based on what I've seen leaked, I wouldn't be surprised if there's not a single NT card in this set. And if there are any, they're probably in the vast minority.

This I understand.  However, I wasn't referring to simple edited by roses jokes, but strong hints at specific knowledge which has already been addressed due to the unintentional leak.  I appreciate your explanation.  I'm just late with revealing my "concern" since it's already been covered and I didn't have enough reason to voice it sooner.  I'm glad the situation has been looked into.

Carry On,

-C_S
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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2011, 12:53:56 AM »
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I've made it seem like I know the new set, but I hope I've made it drastically clear that whatever I post here is out of complete ignorance.

I've always been worried about the trading thing, but I don't really trade much.
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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #105 on: July 15, 2011, 09:42:24 AM »
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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #106 on: August 07, 2011, 10:52:49 AM »
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Quote from: Prof Underwood on July 12, 2011, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: soul seeker on July 12, 2011, 03:58:49 PM
I don't know what can be done to close Pandora's box
It is harder for some of us to keep things secret than others.  My situation is pretty ideal in a way because I have an isolated playgroup of which I am the only person who is active on the boards.  And even here I don't playtest with everyone in my playgroup.

It would be a lot harder for elders who are regularly playing only with people who are very active on the boards, or who have a hard time keeping things to themselves.

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on July 12, 2011, 04:18:39 PM
My concern is more about reprints of cards, or cards that make use of other cards. There is a sudden flurry of trading or selling of these cards from people in the know, at the expense of those not in the know.
I hadn't observed this.  Can you list a couple cards that you've seen trading more?  It might have nothing to do with the new set at all.

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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #107 on: August 07, 2011, 11:06:12 AM »
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Why would they want to get rid of Iron Pan when it negates the opponents protection?
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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #108 on: August 07, 2011, 12:04:50 PM »
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Quote from: Nameless on August 07, 2011, 11:06:12 AM
Why would they want to get rid of Iron Pan when it negates the opponents protection?

It negates your protection too among other things.
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Re: Article #2 posted - Iron Pan
« Reply #109 on: August 07, 2011, 08:43:21 PM »
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It negates everything ever.  Including any arguments to the contrary.
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