Author Topic: Revelation of John - Set List and Information (Read 78728 times)

megamanlan · « **Reply #75 on:** March 22, 2017, 10:13:31 AM »

Its definitely useful. The only concern it gives me is it could become an incentive to not make new Trumpets. But that could be mitigated if when new Trumps are made they have effects that either can't be duplicated (like Convert X as it can't copy identifiers) or just make fairly limited effects or effects that just don't stack. (Like making stats become ___ where it doesn't matter if you copy it 10 times, it just does the same thing.)

Gabe · « **Reply #76 on:** March 22, 2017, 10:41:30 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on March 22, 2017, 10:13:31 AM

The only concern it gives me is it could become an incentive to not make new Trumpets.

There will be other trumpet cards in the set, but...

Let's do a little math. We have 129 card set. There's way more in the book of Revelation than we could possibly represent in 129 cards. Thinking about the 7 Trumpets, 7 Bowls of Wrath and 7 Seals alone, if we made all of those, that's 21 silver GEs, not including the many other events in Revelation that could be a silver GE. We simply cannot make them all as individual cards. That would leave us with a set that is almost all silver. I know that would excite you (

) but the set needs to be diverse and offer things to people that play brigades other than silver too.

The Seven Trumpet Blowers that I spoiled above was one of the ways we were able to cover more of the happenings in the book of Revelation without printing a card for every single thing (read all 7 trumpets). And we always love finding ways to make old cards useful again. Especially ones that people consider "bad".

If we learned anything from Early Church and Persecuted Church it's that players want more than one good brigade in a set. That is our incentive to not reprint all the trumpets.

The Guardian · « **Reply #77 on:** March 22, 2017, 10:51:21 AM »

Quote

The Seven Trumpet ~~Blowers~~ Sounders that I spoiled above

FTFY

browarod · « **Reply #78 on:** March 22, 2017, 11:25:17 AM »

Quote from: Gabe on March 22, 2017, 10:41:30 AM

And we always love finding ways to make old cards useful again. Especially ones that people consider "bad".

And this is why Redemption is great.

browarod · « **Reply #79 on:** March 22, 2017, 12:25:33 PM »

Sorry to double post, but I'm just too excited not to post this right away: Box art for RoJ revealed on Facebook!

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #80 on:** March 22, 2017, 12:42:00 PM »

Quote from: Browa on March 22, 2017, 12:25:33 PM

Sorry to double post, but I'm just too excited not to post this right away: Box art for RoJ revealed on Facebook!

Wait until you see the Hero it's on!

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #81 on:** March 22, 2017, 12:47:34 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on March 22, 2017, 12:42:00 PM

Quote from: Browa on March 22, 2017, 12:25:33 PM
Sorry to double post, but I'm just too excited not to post this right away: Box art for RoJ revealed on Facebook!

Wait until you see the Hero it's on!

Why wait when you can just show us now!

megamanlan · « **Reply #82 on:** March 22, 2017, 12:48:23 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on March 22, 2017, 10:41:30 AM

Quote from: megamanlan on March 22, 2017, 10:13:31 AM
The only concern it gives me is it could become an incentive to not make new Trumpets.

There will be other trumpet cards in the set, but...

Let's do a little math. We have 129 card set. There's way more in the book of Revelation than we could possibly represent in 129 cards. Thinking about the 7 Trumpets, 7 Bowls of Wrath and 7 Seals alone, if we made all of those, that's 21 silver GEs, not including the many other events in Revelation that could be a silver GE. We simply cannot make them all as individual cards. That would leave us with a set that is almost all silver. I know that would excite you ( ) but the set needs to be diverse and offer things to people that play brigades other than silver too.

The Seven Trumpet Blowers that I spoiled above was one of the ways we were able to cover more of the happenings in the book of Revelation without printing a card for every single thing (read all 7 trumpets). And we always love finding ways to make old cards useful again. Especially ones that people consider "bad".

If we learned anything from Early Church and Persecuted Church it's that players want more than one good brigade in a set. That is our incentive to not reprint all the trumpets.

I totally understand. I would be fine if they were spread over various sets. My concerns although partly comes from other games where they give a great card to a theme (or archetype) and then use that really good card as an excuse to never make good cards (or versions) of that theme again.

That said, My worry very well could be for nothing as you guys could very well just remake them. I'll be happy so long as I get some Revelation Angel support and be able to use the Seals/Trumps/Bowls in a deck.

Daniel · « **Reply #83 on:** March 22, 2017, 12:49:19 PM »

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #84 on:** March 22, 2017, 12:55:48 PM »

Quote from: Crashfach2002 on March 22, 2017, 12:47:34 PM

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on March 22, 2017, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: Browa on March 22, 2017, 12:25:33 PM
Sorry to double post, but I'm just too excited not to post this right away: Box art for RoJ revealed on Facebook!

Wait until you see the Hero it's on!

Why wait when you can just show us now!

I'm not authorized to preview that Hero at this moment.

Ironisaac · « **Reply #85 on:** March 22, 2017, 12:57:54 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on March 22, 2017, 12:55:48 PM

Quote from: Crashfach2002 on March 22, 2017, 12:47:34 PM
Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on March 22, 2017, 12:42:00 PM
Quote from: Browa on March 22, 2017, 12:25:33 PM
Sorry to double post, but I'm just too excited not to post this right away: Box art for RoJ revealed on Facebook!

Wait until you see the Hero it's on!

Why wait when you can just show us now!

I'm not authorized to preview that Hero at this moment.

You are authorized to show us all the new cards now.

Gabe · « **Reply #86 on:** March 22, 2017, 12:59:13 PM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on March 22, 2017, 12:55:48 PM

I'm not authorized to preview that Hero at this moment.

Show us one you are authorized then!

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #87 on:** March 22, 2017, 01:07:05 PM »

Quote from: Gabe on March 22, 2017, 12:59:13 PM

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on March 22, 2017, 12:55:48 PM
I'm not authorized to preview that Hero at this moment.

Show us one you are authorized then!

If you insist!

The following post contains spoilers from Revelation of John. Do not open if you wish to be surprised upon opening packs.

Spoiler (hover to show)

As with all cards we're previewing these are not final versions. We are very close, but are making final tweaks and wording checks.

megamanlan · « **Reply #88 on:** March 22, 2017, 01:10:25 PM »

I really love that one! NJ support!

Im hoping for a Revelation Angel searcher or something that is good enough to kinda replace Wheel or a Michael with a double reference.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #89 on:** March 22, 2017, 01:15:09 PM »

So I know this is trying to support the NJ site, but are dominants allowed to be added to the reserve?

The Guardian · « **Reply #90 on:** March 22, 2017, 01:20:35 PM »

Dominants cannot start in the Reserve. They are not restricted from ending up in the Reserve...

megamanlan · « **Reply #91 on:** March 22, 2017, 01:22:17 PM »

Might we be seeing a new version of NJ (Site) or not really?

browarod · « **Reply #92 on:** March 22, 2017, 01:40:29 PM »

Quote from: megamanlan on March 22, 2017, 01:22:17 PM

Might we be seeing a new version of NJ (Site) or not really?

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on March 22, 2017, 01:07:05 PM

Here's an Angel that furthers our Reserve interaction and is amazing with a certain reprint this year.

megamanlan · « **Reply #93 on:** March 22, 2017, 02:01:54 PM »

Quote from: Browa on March 22, 2017, 01:40:29 PM

Quote from: megamanlan on March 22, 2017, 01:22:17 PM
Might we be seeing a new version of NJ (Site) or not really?
Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on March 22, 2017, 01:07:05 PM
Here's an Angel that furthers our Reserve interaction and is amazing with a certain reprint this year.

oh noes! THEYRE REPRINTING SoG FOR THE 1,275,847TH TIME!

Xonathan · « **Reply #94 on:** March 22, 2017, 04:47:42 PM »

Will RoJ be like CoW having 3 common/uncommon and 1 rare/ultra rare with some cards from the older sets?

Jeremystair · « **Reply #95 on:** March 22, 2017, 05:12:16 PM »

Yes that is what is going to happen. Rob said that RoJ will be packaged much like cloud of witnesses were Here is where he said it just a few days ago.

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/redemption-card-play/ultra-rare/

megamanlan · « **Reply #96 on:** March 23, 2017, 10:17:47 AM »

I have to wonder... Might we be getting the Four Horsemen in this set...?

Ironisaac · « **Reply #97 on:** March 23, 2017, 10:26:38 AM »

I would be very disappointed if we did not. I'm like 99.98% sure that we will get them, considering what a big part of revelation they are.

megamanlan · « **Reply #98 on:** March 23, 2017, 10:30:20 AM »

Quote from: Ironisaac on March 23, 2017, 10:26:38 AM

I would be very disappointed if we did not. I'm like 99.98% sure that we will get them, considering what a big part of revelation they are.

Agreed.

Crashfach2002 · « **Reply #99 on:** March 23, 2017, 11:15:07 AM »

Quote from: Xonathan on March 22, 2017, 04:47:42 PM

Will RoJ be like CoW having 3 common/uncommon and 1 rare/ultra rare with some cards from the older sets?

What Rob said was that there will be 1 UR in each box. Nothing was said about specific contents, so this question still would be unanswered.

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Author Topic: Revelation of John - Set List and Information (Read 78728 times)

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