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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #25 on: January 22, 2013, 05:52:14 PM »
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I didn't state it as a fact and go so far as to roll my eyes as if you were stupid for thinking it was water damage. I said it probably wasn't, I didn't roll my eyes for you not having thought of that. That is the point.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #26 on: January 22, 2013, 06:13:53 PM »
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It might as well be a fact. It's like saying hey, my tv remote doesn't turn on, how do I fix it? I don't need to call a technical specialist for him to tell me to replace the batteries. Again, my point still stands. In the times the specific problem as outlined by you happens, it is most likely due to water damage. Not a busted jack.

While we're also on the subject of the rolling eyes colloquial, I'm really beginning to think you read much too far between the lines. In most cases it means a tongue in cheek moment, not signifying someone as stupid. So let's just get off the nitpicking and context lawyering and get back to discussing the real issue at hand here: iPhone being the superior phone. ::):-*:-*:-*::)
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2013, 06:15:31 PM »
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The only area in which iPhone is superior is in profit margin, which consider they are outpaced in sales only confirms the already established fact that they are over priced.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2013, 06:17:07 PM »
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iPhone:
Better OS.
Better app store.
Better craftsmanship.
Better at surviving orange pop.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2013, 06:28:29 PM »
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If that were true why does Android still hold a 20% lead of iOS in market share? Why did CNET review the GSIII as the best phone of 2012, over the iPhone 5? Why did the GSIII just pass the iPhone as the best selling smartphone both in the US and worldwide? Better App store is no longer true, Apple still has more Apps but many of those are holdovers from previous gen phones that have been replaced by newer apps. When it comes to quality and variety of apps, android has caught up. Better craftsmanship depends on which specific android model, the Motorola Razr is built better then the iPhone 5. Better at surviving orange pop I can't argue, mainly because no one really keeps track of such statistics and I'm not willing to buy a bunch of both brands to test the theory.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2013, 06:46:17 PM »
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The only area in which iPhone is superior is in profit margin,

If that were true why does Android still hold a 20% lead of iOS in market share?

Which reminds me of a true story (which Dilbert spoofed more than once): a financial intern tells a marketing exec that a new technology has a slightly negative margin per unit, to which the exec replies, "we'll make it up in volume."

The shareholders only want to hear about profits.

If non-iPhone manufacturers feel they have a better product, ask Sony how that worked out for them 30-40 years ago.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #31 on: January 22, 2013, 06:50:01 PM »
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When it comes to quality and variety of apps, android has caught up.

Don't know if serious or trolling...or just delusional. It would appear you are going through the 5 stages of grief, as exemplified by your realization of a mid-life crisis because you picked an inferior phone:

1. Denial
2. Anger
3. Bargaining
4. Become an evil cyborg
5. Force choke everything to death
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #32 on: January 22, 2013, 07:23:05 PM »
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i've owned both an Ipod touch and 2 Android devices running 4.0. When I first got my first android device, the app market was pretty bare compared to itunes. This is no longer the case. All of the apps I used on my ipod now have an android counterpart, and there are even several apps I can get on my android that are not available on the itunes store.

Which reminds me of a true story (which Dilbert spoofed more than once): a financial intern tells a marketing exec that a new technology has a slightly negative margin per unit, to which the exec replies, "we'll make it up in volume."

The shareholders only want to hear about profits.

If non-iPhone manufacturers feel they have a better product, ask Sony how that worked out for them 30-40 years ago.

 ::)

Android is still doing very well in their profits, their margin may not be as large as iPhone but the volume does more than make up for that. They don't have a negative margin, it's just not the cliff that iphone has because of their mark up.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #33 on: January 22, 2013, 07:39:33 PM »
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So is there another competitor besides the Republicans iPhones and Democrats Androids? I'm very tempted to vote independent here.  ::)
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2013, 07:46:18 PM »
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Windows Phone technically but they are WAY behind in the app market. It's nice if you use windows 8 on any of your computers since it makes it a pretty seemless experience. You can also still go back to blackberry but they are more than likely done as a phone manufacturer. Alternatively, if Verizon will support it, Ubuntu now comes in a mobile phone flavor. I have no idea if Verizon supports hooking it up to the network, that would be a question better answered by ProfA and he might not even know since it's only been out for a few months but just like with normal linux it can be installed on basically any phone so you can just buy a phone for hardware and install Ubuntu on it.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #35 on: January 22, 2013, 08:11:43 PM »
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iPhone:
Better OS.
Better app store.
Better craftsmanship.
Better at surviving orange pop.

/thread
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #36 on: January 22, 2013, 08:34:08 PM »
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iPhone:
Better OS.
Better app store.
Better craftsmanship.
Better at surviving orange pop.

/thread
What do you call soda? pop or soda?

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #37 on: January 22, 2013, 09:06:01 PM »
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Windows Phone technically but they are WAY behind in the app market. It's nice if you use windows 8 on any of your computers since it makes it a pretty seemless experience. You can also still go back to blackberry but they are more than likely done as a phone manufacturer. Alternatively, if Verizon will support it, Ubuntu now comes in a mobile phone flavor. I have no idea if Verizon supports hooking it up to the network, that would be a question better answered by ProfA and he might not even know since it's only been out for a few months but just like with normal linux it can be installed on basically any phone so you can just buy a phone for hardware and install Ubuntu on it.

Agree on all counts. I haven't heard anything about an Ubuntu product for Verizon, but something tells me YMT isn't a bug Ubuntu guy. If I'm wrong I could certainly look into it, I probably will anyway now.
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #38 on: January 22, 2013, 09:41:45 PM »
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ITT: Alec gets trolled hard. Unless MKC was serious, in which case, I raged.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2013, 09:11:15 AM »
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ITT: Alec gets trolled hard. Unless MKC was serious, in which case, I raged.

I'm fairly certain MKC was completely serious about everything except possibly the evil cyborg thing (possibly not?)...his affinity for the iPhone and belief in its superiority is well-documented on these forums. Anyway, It seems that I will be getting both an iPhone 5 and a Galaxy S3, so I will be able to do a side-by-side comparison...did I mention I love working for Verizon?
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #40 on: January 23, 2013, 09:46:05 AM »
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I've done a little more research in to Ubuntu and as it turns out, it doesn't replace the Android core it just builds on top of it so it should be fully supported by all carriers.

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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #41 on: January 23, 2013, 04:40:20 PM »
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ITT: Alec gets trolled hard. Unless MKC was serious, in which case, I raged.

I'm fairly certain MKC was completely serious about everything except possibly the evil cyborg thing (possibly not?)...his affinity for the iPhone and belief in its superiority is well-documented on these forums.

I've devised a new method of figuring out which phone to choose. Watch 10 fairly recent movies/tv shows in one week with cell phones in them, preferably with people using them. The phone to pick will be the phone with the most appearances.
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #42 on: January 23, 2013, 04:43:10 PM »
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #43 on: January 23, 2013, 04:51:19 PM »
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At one point I downloaded the CTU ringtone, but couldn't figure out how to get it from my computer to my phone.  :P
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #44 on: January 23, 2013, 05:34:06 PM »
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I want Jack Bauer's phone.

Comes with a free "forceful information extraction" App.
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #45 on: January 23, 2013, 06:47:54 PM »
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I get the feeling that you guys aren't really trying to help me anymore....  ;)
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2013, 09:23:38 AM »
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I get the feeling that you guys aren't really trying to help me anymore....  ;)

No, but all you need to do is figure out how your phone situation compromises national security, and Jack Bauer will get right on it.

But seriously, I guess I didn't see your earlier posts about data previous to the iPhone vs. Android war. If you already have WiFi at home (I assume you do, since, well, you can access the internet from home in 2013) then you should make use of that as much as possible, especially if you watch videos/download a lot. But otherwise, I would say ~2GB per person with a data device is probably what you want to shoot for. The nice thing about Verizon's Share Everything plans (those are the plans with the tiers you referred to) is that you can adjust the amount of data you need at anytime...so if you're a month in and you find you need more or less, you can adjust that pretty easily. I am currently on the 6GB tier for my and my wife's smartphones, but I am going to track the usage over the next few months and see if we even use that much.

Your online detailed statement at verizonwireless.com will show you your data usage at any time in a billing cycle, so it's easy to keep track of that.

The only warning I have about the iPhone 4 is that it is not 4G enabled, which is okay for now and the not-too-distant future, but Verizon's main focus is on the 4G network, and thus 4G devices. The 3G network and thus 3G devices are going to be phased out eventually, which doesn't necessarily mean your phone will stop working, but it may not have the same network support that it will in the short term.
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2013, 10:15:39 AM »
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I'm not sure about iPhone's, but Android devices also have a mennu option in settings to see how much data you've used. what it was used on, and when.

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« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2013, 11:23:26 AM »
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I'm not sure about iPhone's, but Android devices also have a mennu option in settings to see how much data you've used. what it was used on, and when.

If it's not native to the iPhone, there's an app for that. It's the MyVerizon app.
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Re: New Phone Input Requested
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2013, 12:29:36 PM »
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What about the "mobile hotspots" or "jet packs?" Has anyone used these for primary home internet? What kind of speeds can you get with these while using multiple devices?
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