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Is The Bible A Book of Destiny or Decisions?
« on: May 03, 2014, 04:30:59 AM »
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Not sure if there was a specific discussion on this.  Nonetheless, I'd like to see wise thoughts.

We are all aware that some of us are proponents of 'destiny' while some of us support God's giving man the freedom to make decisions.

Please ensure that discussions enable this thread to remain in Off-Topic.  Family-friendly idea/conviction exchanges only, please.

Thanks and Godbless.
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Re: Is The Bible A Book of Destiny or Decisions?
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2014, 08:59:04 AM »
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1. I tend to lean towards an idea of God having "umbrella knowledge". This means God has the ability to know the result of every possible combinations of human decision but as humans we still make decisions.  I believe God interferes at crucial moments of humanity and in individual lives, if it is His will. This leads me to believe in aspects of both decision and destiny.

2. I struggle with absolute free will and with predestination.
         2a. If Free will is correct in its entirety then the salvation of everyone in the world falls on us as Christians and my sins may entirely prevent someone, some group or some nation of people from knowing Jesus. How can we live under the burden of that?  This means the fact that you lied about that gumball you stole when you were 4, it could have eternal implications on the life of the clerk you lied to.
         2b. If Predestination is entirely correct then I find myself being a universalist. If God's will happens and it's His will that "none should perish" I find it logical that hell is reserved strictly for Satan and his minions.  If Predestination is correct and universalism is not the answer, then we believe in a God who created people whose entire exisistence was simply to be seperated from Him. If predestination is correct, I wish I wouldn't have had my son. If it is destiny there is nothing I can do to help point him to Jesus. My son is either destined for relationship with Jesus or not. If not I can't survive the fact that I gave him life. Even though that would have been my destiny. If that were the case it would lead me to hate God and myself and that is a scary place to be.

Neither of these solutions (in full) sit comfortable.  I praise God that He is Just, Good, Graceful, Wise and Compassionate. I fall on the truth that Jesus died and rose again one time to free all those who believe from the penalty of sin.  I praise His name because only the name of Jesus is worthy of adoration and in His will I place my hands and my life.
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Re: Is The Bible A Book of Destiny or Decisions?
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2014, 11:25:33 AM »
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I believe in complete free will. God knows what's going to happen, but he is still going to let us decide. John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his son that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Whosoever means that anyone who comes and believes in Christ is saved forever, and that it's not been pre decided.
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Re: Is The Bible A Book of Destiny or Decisions?
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2014, 12:11:05 PM »
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The Bible is both destiny and decisions. We have free will while God exerts whatever influence he desires appropriate for the occasion.
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