Author Topic: Balance (in the BCS) (Read 9173 times)

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #75 on:** December 01, 2010, 10:43:08 AM »

I can see all 6 power conferences being very competitive soon.

The Big East will be getting TCU, which if they continue as they have, they'll be a title contender team, but now we'll see if those perfect seasons would have stood against top programs. I would say TCU helps the Big East to silence some of the "weak" conference talk too. Mostly by me, haha. The Big East still needs to get up to 12 teams though, and start having a conference championship.

FSU and VT are looking a lot better and if the "U" gets going, then the ACC will be what a lot of people thought it would have been a couple years ago.

The SEC will continue to be tough and with Nebraska, the Big 10 will continue to be tough.

USC won't be out that long, I would say they'll be a lot better next year and back to where they were within 2-3 years. So the Pac12, with the addition of Colorado and Utah will be solid as well if Oregon continues to be a powerhouse.

That leaves the Big12. Oklahoma, Texas, and even OK St. can keep that conference going, but they need to get back up to 12 teams.

So, the big 12 needs 2 teams and the big east needs 3 teams. I'd say: Boise State and BYU to the Big 12. Notre Dame, UCF, and East Carolina to the Big East.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #76 on:** December 01, 2010, 10:57:43 AM »

Ah, I see what he was saying now...

I do wish that they would implement some sort of playoff system, as it can be easier to make up a playoff system than it is to make some stupid formula and base your rankings off of some points. I would much rather see a mid-major team go through a series of playoff games and win a title than a team who plays nobodies all season (TCU and Boise, I'm eyeballing you) and wants a Title bid because they're "undefeated". Example: 2008 Sugar Bowl. Hawaii fans were complaining that they should have gotten the Title bid, beings they were the only undefeated in the Top 25. However, they played poopy teams like San Jose State, New Mexico State, and Fresno State (and also demolishing 2 FCS teams) and got destroyed themselves by the Georgia Bulldogs. Georgia led 24-3 at HALF, and ended up winning 41-10.

I would argue that Texas A&M is on the upswing in the Big 12 South, but it could be one of those fluke seasons where they got lucky a lot. While I'd agree that Boise would possibly move to the Big 12, I would also tend to think that maybe TCU would come too (since they're in Texas). Is TCU for sure moving to the Big East?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #77 on:** December 01, 2010, 04:05:31 PM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on December 01, 2010, 10:57:43 AM

Is TCU for sure moving to the Big East?

Yes. They already made the official announcement. In fact, they are joining the Big East in all sports, which is interesting since the Big East fell apart five years ago thanks mostly to the basketball vs. football debate.

The Guardian · « **Reply #78 on:** December 02, 2010, 01:15:23 AM »

Boise St to the Big 12 is a great idea. I think that's exactly what the Big 12 needs--a team that so many people already enjoy watching and rooting for, plus it gives Boise St ample opportunity to prove it belongs with the big boys.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #79 on:** December 02, 2010, 09:03:41 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on December 02, 2010, 01:15:23 AM

Boise St to the Big 12 is a great idea. I think that's exactly what the Big 12 needs--a team that so many people already enjoy watching and rooting for, plus it gives Boise St ample opportunity to prove it belongs with the big boys.

Should create more rivalries than just Texas/OU and OSU/OU. But Texas is rivals with pretty much anyone who's ever beat them.

Red · « **Reply #80 on:** December 02, 2010, 09:18:46 AM »

I root for AL and JSU.(yeah never heard of the other one have you?)

Master_Chi · « **Reply #81 on:** December 02, 2010, 09:52:26 AM »

Quote from: Red on December 02, 2010, 09:18:46 AM

I root for AL and JSU.(yeah never heard of the other one have you?)

Jerky State University?

Red · « **Reply #82 on:** December 02, 2010, 10:19:13 AM »

jacksonville state unversity.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #83 on:** December 04, 2010, 09:45:51 AM »

I'm not trying to diss the Big Ten, so please do not take this the wrong way. I simply think it is important to note that a 7-4 Fresno State beat a 6-5 Illinois team last night. It is one thing to argue that an undefeated WAC team beating a 3-9 Big Ten team is meaningless, but if a mediocre WAC team beats a mediocre Big Ten team, then I think that illustrates a parity between the conferences overall. There may still be a separation between a Big Ten Champion and a WAC Champion, but I think they deserve a chance to find out.

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #84 on:** December 04, 2010, 11:10:23 AM »

It's easy to see that the little guy will have less and less of a chance with the new conference structures. If you want a chance to get into a BCS game, you're going to have to be in a power conference probably starting after next year.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #85 on:** December 04, 2010, 05:43:32 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on December 04, 2010, 09:45:51 AM

I'm not trying to diss the Big Ten, so please do not take this the wrong way. I simply think it is important to note that a 7-4 Fresno State beat a 6-5 Illinois team last night. It is one thing to argue that an undefeated WAC team beating a 3-9 Big Ten team is meaningless, but if a mediocre WAC team beats a mediocre Big Ten team, then I think that illustrates a parity between the conferences overall. There may still be a separation between a Big Ten Champion and a WAC Champion, but I think they deserve a chance to find out.

It's also worth noting that 1-7 (SEC record) Ole Miss beat Fresno State. So that settles that.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #86 on:** December 04, 2010, 07:13:53 PM »

And Ole Miss lost to Jacksonville State..... so that seems to settle nothing, unless you are suggesting that FCS teams are better than SEC teams, in which case you are further proving my point that every team should get a chance to prove themselves.

The Schaef · « **Reply #87 on:** December 04, 2010, 08:29:54 PM »

Any team who thinks they can hang with the likes of Oregon, Auburn and Wisconsin this year is welcome to try. But I think they might not have been watching today's games very closely.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #88 on:** December 04, 2010, 11:24:13 PM »

UCONN wins!!! Woo-hoo!

Remember the name: Dave Teggart

UConn's kicker has been stellar all year. He made a 53 yard FG late in the game, then a 52-yarder with seconds left to win the game. He is sure to be in the NFL. He has made many 50 yarders throughout his career, and is particularly good in the clutch.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #89 on:** December 05, 2010, 10:19:31 AM »

Nebraska's kicker Henery has a heck of a leg on him... Watching Henery last night was like watching Nick Lowery during kicking practice.

And, Oklahoma locked in their Fiesta Bowl bid with their 23-20 win over Nebraska. OU outscored Nebraska 23-3 after the first quarter, and outscored them 9-0 in the second half.

Now let's hope that the Fiesta Bowl's hatred of OU won't be as fierce this year as it has in previous years... :/

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #90 on:** December 05, 2010, 10:21:20 AM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on December 05, 2010, 10:19:31 AM

Now let's hope that the Fiesta Bowl's hatred of OU won't be as fierce this year as it has in previous years... :/

Since they are likely playing against UConn, I hope it is.

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #91 on:** December 05, 2010, 11:10:45 AM »

I hope they do a better job setting up the regular BCS games. Instead of having a bunch of one side games, match the teams according to talent and not BCS bowl affiliation.

The Schaef · « **Reply #92 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:25:05 PM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on December 05, 2010, 10:19:31 AM

Now let's hope that the Fiesta Bowl's hatred of OU won't be as fierce this year as it has in previous years.

Maybe they could try winning every once in a while.

Quote from: Daniel TS RED on December 05, 2010, 11:10:45 AM

I hope they do a better job setting up the regular BCS games. Instead of having a bunch of one side games, match the teams according to talent and not BCS bowl affiliation.

Some conference affiliations are locked in, e.g. Wisconsin in the Rose. But having Oregon and Auburn in the title game frees up a slot in both the Rose and the Sugar for other teams to play.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #93 on:** December 05, 2010, 02:52:21 PM »

TCU is locked to the Rose Bowl, too, due to the quirky non-AQ rules. Virginia Tech is locked to the Orange Bowl.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #94 on:** December 06, 2010, 09:53:31 AM »

Quote from: The Schaef on December 05, 2010, 02:25:05 PM

Quote from: Master_Chi on December 05, 2010, 10:19:31 AM
Now let's hope that the Fiesta Bowl's hatred of OU won't be as fierce this year as it has in previous years.

Maybe they could try winning every once in a while.

Their season records are just fine, it's their bowl record that's poopy. I blame the refs.

STAMP · « **Reply #95 on:** December 06, 2010, 12:13:25 PM »

Fortunately, I won't need to waste any of my time watching bowl games. I'll know who wins the national championship anyway. If there are lots of sirens coming from fire engines to go put out burning cars here in my home town, then I know who won.

The Schaef · « **Reply #96 on:** December 06, 2010, 06:18:16 PM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on December 06, 2010, 09:53:31 AM

Their season records are just fine, it's their bowl record that's poopy. I blame the refs.

It's their performance in BCS bowls that I was referencing specifically.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #97 on:** December 06, 2010, 06:56:48 PM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on December 06, 2010, 09:53:31 AM

I blame the refs.

Schaef blames the scorekeeper.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #98 on:** December 06, 2010, 11:53:10 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on December 06, 2010, 06:56:48 PM

Quote from: Master_Chi on December 06, 2010, 09:53:31 AM
I blame the refs.

Schaef blames the scorekeeper.

I blame everyone but the team. Because it is definitely not their fault AND THEY DESERVE TO WIN EVERY GAME!

STAMP · « **Reply #99 on:** December 07, 2010, 11:05:03 AM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on December 06, 2010, 11:53:10 PM

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on December 06, 2010, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: Master_Chi on December 06, 2010, 09:53:31 AM
I blame the refs.

Schaef blames the scorekeeper.

I blame everyone but the team. Because it is definitely not their fault AND THEY DESERVE TO WIN EVERY GAME!

I blame the NCAA for allowing such ridiculous plays like the "statue of liberty" and the "hook and ladder".

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