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We Want Barabbas
[Black/Gray Evil Enhancement | -/- | TC | Mark 15:11]
Exchange a captured Hero with a Hero in a territory (or battle if played during Battle Phase). Cannot be negated if Pontius Pilate is in play.


Since 3 new cards in a day is better than 2.

LOVE IT.

Fits the story, but won't be played I think.

Just because you don't use them doesn't meen others don't.

Trust me, I play withe everything.
Also, in my experience (which is a good bit), I do not see this getting played as much, if at all.  dual-color evil enhancement that exchanges a captured hero, (who is usually their hero, which means same color) with another hero in battle is nothing great. If you have initiative you would want to play a battle winner, not another card that gives you initiative, or that gives them one.

Would it be better if I added something to spice it up, like "Exchange ...... to end the battle"?

The way I see it, the chief priests influenced the crowd (use the enhancement) and Pilate carried out the action (makes it CBN), so the current wording fits the story to a tee.

Like I said in my previous post, I'm more than willing to spice it up if people think it needs it, but the basics of what's there right now is a minimum that I want to fit with the story.

It seems like the "in a territory (or battle if played during Battle Phase)" is unnecessary, unless you wanted this enhancement to be limited to only affecting the battle during battle. If I were you, I would just take that part out.

Um........I'm not at all sure what you mean. That would turn it into "Exchange a captured Hero with a Hero", is that what you mean?

Do they make a Barabas card?? I always wanted to know.

I agree that this won't see much play at all. Assuming there's some sweet reprint of Barabbas (who should be warrior class), it should include something involving him. Additionally, make it more generally usable while still fitting the story.

Give Us Barabbas!
[Black/Gray Evil Enhancement | -/- | TC | Mark 15:11]
Capture a hero. If played during the battle phase, you may search opponent's deck for Son of God and discard it.

Why warrior class? Where is there proof he fought in an earthy battle or did something to gain warrior class?

He fought in the insurrection and killed people.

From that you are saying aanyone who killed a person or revolted should have warrior class status. So stone throwers, the pharisees/sadducees, angry mob, and saul(N.T) should have warrior class by your definition since each one killed or revolted.

I'm not sure the point you're trying to make. Stone Throwers refers to people who were going to stone a woman to death for adultery, until Jesus defended her. Pharisees/Sadducees are generic - it's not really logical to assume that every single one of them killed, or even if they did, that they killed during battle, as opposed to an execution. Angry Mob is the same way, it was an attempted execution more than anything else. I don't know Saul's history that well, but I believe that all the killings he did were execution-style. Barabbas literally fought and killed in an insurrection, which implies an actual battle.

in·sur·rec·tion

noun /ˌinsəˈrekSHən/ 
insurrections, plural

    A violent uprising against an authority or government
        - the insurrection was savagely put down
        - opposition to the new regime led to armed insurrection

I would say that a "violent uprising" could easily count as a battle or skirmish. He literally took up arms during a violent uprising and killed at least one person, more than likely a Roman soldier. How is that qualification of warrior class?

A man called Barabbas was in prison with the insurrectionists who had committed murder in the uprising.

Blatant proof from the Bible that says there was killing during the insurrection.

Violent uprising should count.
Absalom is warrior-class for the same reason.
He had a military coup against David and killed people.


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As for the Card, I like it, but I would put it as 'If Ponticus Pilate is in play, Discard a Captured Character' And drop the CBN and put it as 'If a Pharisee, Sadgusee, or a Scribe is in play,' at the beginning.

As I said before, what is there now (the exchange and something to do with Pilate) are a minimum for story accuracy, so your first suggestion doesn't fit with that. Your second suggestion just plain doesn't make sense as that would make the card "If a Pharisee, Sadducee, Scribe, or Pontius Pilate is in play...." which sounds entirely awkward.

You guys are arguing over an ability that wouldn't be used by anyone anyways.

Why would I want to discard a captured hero?

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on August 19, 2011, 03:41:44 PM

Why would I want to discard a captured hero?

1) To prevent them getting it back with New Covenant.
2) If it's your only LS, it would be a successful block.
3) To foil a "if X card is in play" ability.

4) To clear a site so you could put something else in it (especially on Herod's dungeon)  or use it for site access.

Sorry, what I meant to say was, "Why would I put such blatant filler in my deck"? There are at least a few cards that do the same thing but better, not the least of which is Babylonian Soliders.

Well, I'm glad my card doesn't have that ability, then.