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King Saul & Some Philistines
« on: February 24, 2012, 09:58:43 AM »
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King Saul
Purple 10/10 WC
Identifier: Israelite King, Prophet
Ability: If all your Heroes are O.T., you may a male evil character to block. If blocked by a Philistine, search discard pile for a O.T. Purple enhancement and add to hand. Cannot be Negated by a Philistine.
Reference: Same

Philistines at Mount Gilboa
Black 8/8 WC
Identifier: Philistine
Ability: May band to a Generic Philistine to discard a O.T. Royal Hero. Cannot be Prevented.
I Samuel 32:8

Philistine’s Challenge
Black
Ability: If used by a Philistine Giant, all Characters but one giant return to Territory. Opponent must present a new hero. All speacial abilities on characters are negated. The defeated is captured to opponent's Land of Bondage.
Reference: I Samuel ?:?
« Last Edit: February 24, 2012, 06:39:52 PM by Arrthoa »
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2012, 10:05:02 AM »
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Who is King Saul discarding, himself or the Philistine?
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2012, 10:08:08 AM »
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Himself is who he is discarding. Thanks for pointing that out it is corrected now.
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2012, 10:15:43 AM »
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I do find it ironic that the only non-giant philistine King Saul won't kill himself after fighting (because they negate him) is the one that was there when he died. :P

Philistine's Challenge seems like Goliath squared. It does basically the same thing just with the extra thing about capture which makes it somewhat overpowered to me.
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2012, 10:20:39 AM »
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There I fixed them both. Challenge is no a fight by the numbers and King Saul is a CBN by Philistine.
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2012, 12:43:04 PM »
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Quote from: Arrthoa on February 24, 2012, 09:58:43 AM
King Saul
Purple 10/10 WC
Identifier: Israelite King, Prophet
Ability: May band to any Israelite royalty mentioned in I Samuel. If Blocked by a Non-Giant Philistine, discard King Saul after battle regardless of battle outcome. Cannot be negated by a Philistine.
Reference: Same

I don't like the idea of Saul banding to David, they weren't on chummy terms for the greater part of David's life.  In addition to that I think that Saul is kinda UP.

Quote from: Arrthoa on February 24, 2012, 09:58:43 AM
Philistines at Mount ? (The one where King Saul was Killed)
Black 8/10 WC
Identifier: Philistine, Generic
Ability: May band to a Generic Philistine. Special Abilities on O.T. Purple Heroes are Negated. Cannot be Prevented.

I think his numbers are a bit too high for a banding character, maybe make him 6/6 or something like that?

Quote from: Arrthoa on February 24, 2012, 09:58:43 AM
Philistine’s Challenge
Black
Ability: If used by a Philistine Giant, all Characters but one giant return to Territory. Opponents must present a new hero. All speacial abilities are negated. The defeated is captured to opponent's Land of Bondage.
Reference: I Samuel ?:?

The way Philistine’s Challenge is currently worded it would negate itself.  You may want to make this one CBN.
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2012, 02:02:57 PM »
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Quote from: Arrthoa on February 24, 2012, 09:58:43 AM


Philistines at Mount ? (The one where King Saul was Killed)
Black 8/10 WC
Identifier: Philistine, Generic
Ability: May band to a Generic Philistine. Special Abilities on O.T. Purple Heroes are Negated. Cannot be Prevented.


Op. In T2 4 of these banded to a Garrison with horses.
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2012, 03:54:53 PM »
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The next day, when the Philistines came to strip the dead, they found Saul and his three sons fallen on Mount Gilboa.
1 Sam. 32:8

I like the first two, but Philistine challenge is op, Considering Goliath, new hero, and do it again.

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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2012, 05:38:11 PM »
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Quote from: Asahel24601 on February 24, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
I like the first two, but Philistine challenge is op, Considering Goliath, new hero, and do it again.

I'm not sure it's OP, Sam is the major strat out there right now and sam revolves around having certain heroes in battle, this fixes the problem by only allowing one of those heroes, and in an BTN battle no less.  This one is probably my favorite idea of those listed here.
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2012, 05:46:13 PM »
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Quote from: Wings of Music on February 24, 2012, 05:38:11 PM
Quote from: Asahel24601 on February 24, 2012, 03:54:53 PM
I like the first two, but Philistine challenge is op, Considering Goliath, new hero, and do it again.

I'm not sure it's OP, Sam is the major strat out there right now and sam revolves around having certain heroes in battle, this fixes the problem by only allowing one of those heroes, and in an BTN battle no less.  This one is probably my favorite idea of those listed here.
+1, it's not op. I like the idea, but it should say "The defeated Character is captured to opponent's Land of Bondage.
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2012, 05:51:17 PM »
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King Saul shouldn't Discard himself, I'd suggest having the Philistine Character discard a OT Royal instead.
Also, King Saul is too up.
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They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2012, 05:55:15 PM »
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Redid King Saul, where he can recure O.T. purple enhancements
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2012, 06:03:25 PM »
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I like the King Saul idea, now you just need a CTB purple enhancement to make it work...

Also Philly Challenge still negates itself.  :P
« Last Edit: February 24, 2012, 06:08:11 PM by Wings of Music »
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2012, 06:06:12 PM »
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what's CTB?
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Re: King Saul & Some Philistines
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2012, 06:07:33 PM »
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Choose the Blocker.  That way King Saul can choose a Phillistine to block for him and thereby causing his ability to trigger.

EDIT: I just realized that philistines at mount Gilboa is not generic as it's title refers to a specific group of philistines.  This is probably a good thing though since it keeps them from being OP.   
« Last Edit: February 24, 2012, 06:38:44 PM by Wings of Music »
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