Author Topic: Never Ending Fun needs some Help! (Read 63512 times)

Isildur · « **on:** February 08, 2009, 11:38:14 PM »

Ok heres the idea I play sowing the seed on my self. Set one of my good pharisees aside with Doc like Levin and have Mirac hankies out and I have a never ending amount of good and evil characters what do you think?

The problems ill have are if Mirac hankies is gone... so yeah...

Pharies/Sads/Never Ending fun
Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
Lost Soul (discarder)
Lost Soul (female only)
Lost Soul (N.T. only)
Lost Soul (punisher)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lost Souls (site guard)

Lamb Dominants: 4
Angel of the Lord
Guardian Of Your Souls
New Jerusalem
Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away

Fortresses: 4
High Priest's Palace
Storehouse
Wall of Protection
City O Refuge

Multi-Color Sites: 1
The Ends of the Earth

Artifacts: 4
Holy Grail
Wool Fleece
Miraculous Handkerchiefs
The Bronze Laver

Red Heroes: 2
Gamaliel
Mentor

Blue Heroes: 2
Claudia
Nicodemus

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 3
Preaching the Truth
Spiritual Warfare
Faith in our high priest

Green Hero Enhancements: 7
Tears for a friend
David's Music
New Priestly Duty
Plague of Frogs
Repentance
Sowing the Seed
Unity in Christ

Red Enh:1
Walking on water

Black Evil Characters: 7
Alexander (take out for either torment or 2/4 g/h black card forgot what it was called.)
High Priest Ananias
High Priest Caiaphas
Sadducees
Sadducees
Sadducees
Sadducees

Gray Evil Characters: 6
Hard-Hearted Religious Leaders
High Priest Annas
Pharisees
Pharisees
Pharisees
Saul/Paul

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 3
Doctrine Like Leaven (black/gray)
Just a Hireling (black/gray)
Sanhedrin

Black Evil Enhancements: 4
Babel
Foolish Advice
High Priest's Plot
Net

Gray Evil Enhancements: 4
Balaam's Disobedience
Deadly Snare
Demonic Snare
Snare

MichaelHue · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2009, 08:48:20 AM »

Wait, so you're saying that you'll put Sowing the Seed on a sadducee, then before it's converted set it aside with Doctrine like Leaven, so it becomes a hero while in set-aside? Because Miraculous Handkerchiefs doesn't protect Evil Characters.

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Play As: Heroes in holder's territory and set-aside area are protected from poisons, diseases, and discard special abilities. Delay the effects of all poisons and diseases currently effecting holder's Heroes.

Not sure what you meant, but it sounds cool. I hope it works

TimMierz · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2009, 09:23:22 AM »

I think High Priests' Palace covers that case.

Isildur · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2009, 10:05:38 AM »

No no no

I play sowing the seed on some random Sad. Then I play Doc like Lev on one of my good Phari's like Gam, Nico, or Paul with mirac hankies up so the set aside hero doesnt die. And the idea is that I have a never ending amount of good and evil characters after that.

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2009, 10:10:41 AM »

Wow, thats a really cool idea! I'm assuming you would have never ending Evil Characters as you expect your opponent to defeat some of your newly converted heros in battle so they are discarded?

I also assume that you play Doctrine Like Leaven while blocking a rescue attempt, as you can not otherwise set aside your hero with the enhancement.

Kirk

Isildur · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2009, 12:37:34 PM »

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Wow, thats a really cool idea! I'm assuming you would have never ending Evil Characters as you expect your opponent to defeat some of your newly converted heros in battle so they are discarded?

Yeah you got that right. The only problem with the deck ive seen so far besides the Mirac Hankie getting discard is its some what lack of enhansments, but the mass amounts of characters I think should more then make up for that.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #6 on:** February 09, 2009, 01:22:21 PM »

Quote from: Isildur on February 08, 2009, 11:38:14 PM

The problems ill have are if Mirac hankies is gone... so yeah...

Quote from: Isildur on February 09, 2009, 12:37:34 PM

The only problem with the deck ive seen so far besides the Mirac Hankie getting discard...

If this is so critical for your deck, then why isn't a temple and LotS in there?

Isildur · « **Reply #7 on:** February 09, 2009, 01:42:46 PM »

...wow never though of that

thanks for the idea

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #8 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:03:55 PM »

Uhm I am sustainer would probably work better instead of hankies.

777Godspeed · « **Reply #9 on:** February 09, 2009, 02:34:12 PM »

how bout both. One as back-up or DoN fodder.

Godspeed,
Mike

Captain Kirk · « **Reply #10 on:** February 09, 2009, 03:23:31 PM »

I don't think I am Sustainer has any effect in the set aside area. Handkerchiefs specifies set aside areas so that is why that is helpful.

Kirk

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #11 on:** February 09, 2009, 05:32:45 PM »

It doesn't? Doh!

Isildur · « **Reply #12 on:** February 09, 2009, 06:59:59 PM »

Heres anouther draft of this deck this one has a few minor changes but they seemed to help.

Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (discarder)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (punisher)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (3-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 5
   City of Refuge
   High Priest's Palace
   Solomon's Temple
   Storehouse
   Wall of Protection

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   The Ends of the Earth

Artifacts: 6
   Holy Grail
   Holy of Holies
   Lampstand of the Sanctuary
   Miraculous Handkerchiefs
   The Bronze Laver
   Wool Fleece

Red Heroes: 2
   Gamaliel
   Mentor

Blue Heroes: 2
   Claudia
   Nicodemus

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 2
   Preaching the Truth
   Spiritual Warfare

Green Hero Enhancements: 7
   David's Music
   New Priestly Duty
   Plague of Frogs
   Repentance
   Sowing the Seed
   Tears for a Friend
   Unity in Christ

Black Evil Characters: 7
   High Priest Ananias
   High Priest Caiaphas
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Temple Guard
   Temple Guard

Gray Evil Characters: 5
   High Priest Annas
   Pharisees
   Pharisees
   Pharisees
   Saul/Paul

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 3
   Doctrine Like Leaven (black/gray)
   Just a Hireling (black/gray)
   Sanhedrin

Black Evil Enhancements: 5
   Babel
   Foolish Advice
   High Priest's Plot
   Net
   Pride of Simon

Gray Evil Enhancements: 3
   Balaam's Disobedience
   Deadly Snare
   Snare

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #13 on:** February 10, 2009, 04:34:39 PM »

He uses Holy grail to make a green hero, Hey isildur, wanna tell them about our game?

Isildur · « **Reply #14 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:41:57 PM »

Which lol I talked about one of them on the Fave Game thread.

lightningninja · « **Reply #15 on:** February 10, 2009, 09:52:00 PM »

This is amazing!

MichaelHue · « **Reply #16 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:13:45 AM »

Backward Shadow

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #17 on:** February 12, 2009, 11:36:47 AM »

Quote from: MichaelHue on February 12, 2009, 11:13:45 AM

Backward Shadow

Haha nice

Gabe · « **Reply #18 on:** February 12, 2009, 12:24:11 PM »

Quote from: MichaelHue on February 12, 2009, 11:13:45 AM

Backward Shadow

Oh wow, that's just wrong!

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2009, 12:52:25 AM »

So I feel like I'm missing something obvious, but doesn't Doctrine as Leaven specify "generic Evil Character" of the type set aside? I'm confused as to how you can recur heroes that are neither generic nor evil with Doctrine...

sk · « **Reply #20 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:26:52 AM »

Doctrine Like Leaven
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Black/Gray • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Set aside a Pharisee or Sadducee and decrease it 0/1 per turn. Each upkeep phase, search your discard pile for a generic Evil Character of the type set aside. Place it in your territory.

"type set aside" = "Pharisee" or "Sadducee"

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #21 on:** February 14, 2009, 03:02:24 AM »

Right, but what about the part that specifies that the character searched for has to be generic and Evil? Gamaliel, Nicodemus, and Paul are neither of those.

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #22 on:** February 14, 2009, 03:03:35 AM »

BUT, if you use that +sowing the seed in your own territory....

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #23 on:** February 14, 2009, 03:10:52 AM »

I just typed up a big long response, and then I got it. Fail for me.

Gabe · « **Reply #24 on:** February 14, 2009, 07:52:52 AM »

Quote from: Tsavong Lah on February 14, 2009, 03:10:52 AM

I just typed up a big long response, and then I got it. Fail for me.

Don't worry, it wasn't obvious to me when I first saw it either. Isildur is a step above the rest when it comes to brilliant combos. Maybe not quite at the RR level, but then again who is?

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Author Topic: Never Ending Fun needs some Help! (Read 63512 times)