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Offline Josh

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Crimson autoblock defense
« on: November 01, 2018, 12:54:54 PM »
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There are so many now.  And many are repeatable - not a 1-time chump.  What would a defense look like, filled with these and backed up by negates?

ECs ( 12 )
Lions
Wayward Sheep
Wild Dogs
The Great Fish
Fiery Serpents
Fire Foxes
The Deceiver
Nebuchadnezzar
Babylonian Siege Army
Sapphira
Philetus
Red Dragon

EEs ( 8 )
Anthropophobia
Midianite Attack
Dream
Nebuchadnezzar's Pride
Seized by Babylon
Treachery of Jezebel
Scattered
Wages of Sin

Reserve
Foreign Wives
Outsiders (Crimson/Brown)
Gideon's Ephod
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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 01:02:34 PM »
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Might as well still use Firefoxes.
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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 01:03:12 PM »
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Image of the Beast probably belongs in Reserve as well.  8)

Quote from: Watchman on November 01, 2018, 01:02:34 PM
Might as well still use Firefoxes.

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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 01:19:52 PM »
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Considering how many of these are animals, I feel like adding Leviathan would be a good choice, even without him being a chump block. You have five animals already, and Leviathan lets you tutor them out whenever one blocks.

Also, Crimson chumps without Belshazaar's Banquet? I feel like there's a missed opportunity.
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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 01:28:21 PM »
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Quote from: Watchman on November 01, 2018, 01:02:34 PM
Might as well still use Firefoxes.

Knew I forgot about one of them.  I'll update.

Quote from: Asahel24601 on November 01, 2018, 01:19:52 PM
Also, Crimson chumps without Belshazaar's Banquet? I feel like there's a missed opportunity.

It's not really a chumpy defense though.  Wild Dogs and Fire Foxes are the only true chump blocks in here, and Wild Dogs is in more because it's a 5-for-1 that sometimes can chump.  Over half of these characters have battle-winning abilities stapled onto their bodies.

Bel's Banquet could always go in Reserve to be fetched by Wages.
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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2018, 01:45:06 PM »
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Quote from: Josh on November 01, 2018, 01:28:21 PM
Quote from: Asahel24601 on November 01, 2018, 01:19:52 PM
Also, Crimson chumps without Belshazaar's Banquet? I feel like there's a missed opportunity.

It's not really a chumpy defense though.  Wild Dogs and Fire Foxes are the only true chump blocks in here, and Wild Dogs is in more because it's a 5-for-1 that sometimes can chump.  Over half of these characters have battle-winning abilities stapled onto their bodies.

Bel's Banquet could always go in Reserve to be fetched by Wages.

That's fair, but I still feel like Banquet should be in main deck, as it's often an autoblock.
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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2018, 01:59:38 PM »
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I feel like 90% of defenses, especially if they're playing Wages can be improved by the additions of Red Dragon, King of Tyrus, Abaddon and Gates of Hell. Either Red Dragon or Gates in reserve
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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2018, 02:21:25 PM »
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Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on November 01, 2018, 01:59:38 PM
I feel like 90% of defenses, especially if they're playing Wages can be improved by the additions of Red Dragon, King of Tyrus, Abaddon and Gates of Hell. Either Red Dragon or Gates in reserve

Sadly, this is probably true. 

Note that Bab Siege Army won't work if you have any of these ECs in play though.  Also, I already have Red Dragon in there  ;)  The Crimson one, just for fun.  I could easily see dropping it for Leviathan or something else.

Although with Wages, Deceiver, and Crimson Red Dragon, I honestly could throw Gates into Reserve if I have room there.
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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2018, 03:05:00 PM »
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Since you're not running the CBP battle winners (Dissension, Hypocrisy), I'd probably run the Leviathan/Behemoth package over Sapphira and Philetus.
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Re: Crimson autoblock defense
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2018, 06:19:51 PM »
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Quote from: Josh on November 01, 2018, 12:54:54 PM
What would a defense look like, filled with these and backed up by negates?

Bloated. ;)

I have a new version of my music martyrs deck in the works that has the brown/orange replaced with crimson. It seems good on paper- my hopes are high.
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