Author Topic: just thoughts on a possible deck ne thoughts greatly appreciated (Read 4250 times)

jbeers285 · « **on:** March 30, 2012, 09:54:31 AM »

Cards in deck: 70
Lost Souls: 9
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (punisher)
   Lost Soul (Shut Door)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (Speed Bump)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (3-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 4
   Pharaoh's Throne Room
   Pithom
   Raiders' Camp
   Storehouse

Gold Sites: 2
   Egypt
   Kir

Blue Sites: 1
   Pharaoh's Prison

Artifacts: 3
   Chariot of Fire
   Magic Charms
   Miraculous Handkerchiefs

White Covenant Cards: 1
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)

Green Heroes: 1
   Isaiah

Purple Heroes: 10
   Bartholomew (Nathanael)
   James, Son of Alphaeus
   John
   King Hezekiah
   Matthew (Levi)
   Mephibosheth
   Philip
   Thaddeus
   The Magi
   Thomas

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 7
   Faith as a Mustard Seed (Purple/Gold)
   Passover Hymn (Purple/White)
   Pentecost
   Razor (Green/Pale Green)
   Seven Years of Plenty (Blue/Evil Gold)
   Siegeworks (Green/Pale Green)
   The Sabbath

Purple Hero Enhancements: 3
   Authority of Christ
   My Lord and My God
   Reach of Desperation

Gold Evil Characters: 10
   Egyptian Charioteers
   Egyptian Warden
   Jannes
   Pharaoh's Baker
   Pharaoh's Cupbearer
   Potiphar
   Potiphar's Wife
   Potiphera, Priest of On
   Queen Tahpenes
   The Dreaming Pharaoh

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Magicians' Snakes (Gold/Pale Green)

Gold Evil Enhancements: 8
   Egyptian Horses
   Enslaved by Egypt
   Evil Spirit
   Failed Objective
   Ruthless
   Swift Horses
   Take as a Slave
   Wonders Forgotten

jbeers285 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 30, 2012, 10:02:50 AM »

if i was gonna go 63 i think i would remove
siegeworks (Green/Pale green
the sabbath
Kir
Lost soul (site discard)
Falling away
the magi
Queen Taphenes

Nameless · « **Reply #2 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:37:24 PM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on March 30, 2012, 09:54:31 AM

Cards in deck: 70 53
Lost Souls: 9
   ~~Lost Soul (can't be prevented)~~
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (punisher)
   Lost Soul (Shut Door)
   ~~Lost Soul (Site Discard)~~
   Lost Soul (Speed Bump)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (3-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord Take out 2 Dominants
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 5
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away
   Mayhem

Fortresses: 4
   Pharaoh's Throne Room
   Pithom
   Raiders' Camp
   Storehouse

Fishing Boat
Gold Sites: 2
   Egypt
   Kir

Blue Sites: 1
   ~~Pharaoh's Prison~~

Artifacts: 3
   ~~Chariot of Fire~~
   Magic Charms
   ~~Miraculous Handkerchiefs~~
The new Cov

White Covenant Cards: 1
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)

Green Heroes: 1
   Isaiah

Purple Heroes: 10
   Bartholomew (Nathanael)
   James, Son of Alphaeus
   John
   King Hezekiah
   Matthew (Levi)
   ~~Mephibosheth~~
   Philip
   Thaddeus
   ~~The Magi~~
   Thomas
James of of Z
Simon the Zealot
Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 7
   Faith as a Mustard Seed (Purple/Gold)
   Passover Hymn (Purple/White)
   Pentecost
   ~~Razor (Green/Pale Green)~~
   Seven Years of Plenty (Blue/Evil Gold)
   ~~Siegeworks (Green/Pale Green)~~
   ~~The Sabbath~~
Two Bears
Purple Hero Enhancements: 3
   Authority of Christ
   My Lord and My God
   Reach of Desperation

Gold Evil Characters: 10
   ~~Egyptian Charioteers~~
   Egyptian Warden
   Jannes
   Pharaoh's Baker
   Pharaoh's Cupbearer
   ~~Potiphar~~
   Potiphar's Wife
   Potiphera, Priest of On
   Queen Tahpenes
   The Dreaming Pharaoh
Egyptian Magicians

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Magicians' Snakes (Gold/Pale Green)

Gold Evil Enhancements: 8
   Egyptian Horses
   Enslaved by Egypt
   Evil Spirit
   Failed Objective
   ~~Ruthless~~
   Swift Horses
   ~~Take as a Slave~~
   Wonders Forgotten

There I made your deck smaller and I think that I kept the concept.

jbeers285 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:45:30 PM »

What is new cov???

Red Wing · « **Reply #4 on:** March 30, 2012, 01:48:28 PM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on March 30, 2012, 01:45:30 PM

What is new cov???

The New Covenant

jbeers285 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 30, 2012, 03:51:03 PM »

ok can you explain how The New Covenant works with the heal ability?

does that mean any of my heroes who are in the discard pile return?

Nameless · « **Reply #6 on:** March 30, 2012, 04:30:26 PM »

No, it is like if they play CM you can put it under your deck to bring your hero back to your territory instead of being discarded.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #7 on:** March 30, 2012, 08:42:11 PM »

Heal abilities work on any character (of the proper alignment) who has been discarded at any point during that turn. Some cards, like Torment, only target one character. Others, like Brass Serpent or The New Covenant, can heal all heroes that were discarded that turn.

jbeers285 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 31, 2012, 03:40:21 PM »

So even if like Santa's wrath hammers all your NT heroes the new cove will heal them all

That's pretty good to know plus magi could search for it over and over

Josh · « **Reply #9 on:** April 01, 2012, 12:08:58 PM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on March 31, 2012, 03:40:21 PM

So even if like Santa's wrath hammers all your NT heroes the new cove will heal them all

That's pretty good to know plus magi could search for it over and over

Actually they can't.

Wings of Music · « **Reply #10 on:** April 01, 2012, 12:10:28 PM »

yup hartz is correct, the Magi can't get it because the new cov is a covenant not an artifact, and the magi only search for artifacts.

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 01, 2012, 12:15:37 PM »

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 01, 2012, 12:10:28 PM

yup hartz is correct, the Magi can't get it because the new cov is a covenant not an artifact, and the magi only search for artifacts.

That's actually wrong, as far as I know. If you're searching deck for an artifact, you can pull a Covenant or a Curse. I'm about 80% sure about this.

Josh · « **Reply #12 on:** April 01, 2012, 12:27:24 PM »

Quote from: Chronic Apathy on April 01, 2012, 12:15:37 PM

Quote from: Wings of Music on April 01, 2012, 12:10:28 PM
yup hartz is correct, the Magi can't get it because the new cov is a covenant not an artifact, and the magi only search for artifacts.

That's actually wrong, as far as I know. If you're searching deck for an artifact, you can pull a Covenant or a Curse. I'm about 80% sure about this.

I think the ruling goes along these lines: If you are searching for a covenant, you can get it only if you are searching for a covenant. If you are playing a covenant, then it can be a covenant, enhancement, or artifact. That's why you can use Go Into Captivity for Zimri's cost but you can't recur it with Imitating Evil, for example.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #13 on:** April 01, 2012, 01:09:27 PM »

If you want someone to keep getting it back on loop, use Salome.

jbeers285 · « **Reply #14 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:09:36 PM »

ok but does magi search deck for NT cov's or no?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #15 on:** April 01, 2012, 02:12:34 PM »

Andy Herzog · « **Reply #16 on:** April 03, 2012, 07:53:24 PM »

A few egyptians I have in my deck
characters
The ammy slave
kot
Pharaohs cupbearer
Egyptian warden
Egyptian magicians

Enhancements
Wonder forgotten
Magicians snake
ruthless
Moses kills egyptian
imprisoned

Also take out storehouse

Redoubter · « **Reply #17 on:** April 03, 2012, 08:01:50 PM »

Quote from: jbeers285 on April 01, 2012, 02:09:36 PM

ok but does magi search deck for NT cov's or no?

To answer everyone, I'd love to quote the REG...but it is down. The REG states that Covenants can be targeted as either enhancements or Covenants until they are played (that is, in hand or deck or discard). Once they hit the table, they take on their identifier based on where they are played (that is, only when you put it in your artifact pile is it an artifact, and it is only an enhancement if played as one).

...course I can't get you the rule for that until the REG is back up -_______-

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #18 on:** April 03, 2012, 08:15:17 PM »

Pretty sure that's wrong.

jbeers285 · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2012, 09:10:50 PM »

Is there a way to get a definite ruling either?

Just effects the style of a new deck I wanna try out

Thanks to everyone

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2012, 09:14:16 PM »

That's the ruling. Curses/Covenants can only be targeted as a Curse/Covenant while in deck.

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2012, 10:42:48 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on April 03, 2012, 09:14:16 PM

That's the ruling. Curses/Covenants can only be targeted as a Curse/Covenant while in deck.

jbeers285 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 04, 2012, 12:51:36 AM »

Thanks much

cardsofmanykinds · « **Reply #23 on:** April 16, 2012, 01:38:34 PM »

Quote from: Andy Herzog on April 03, 2012, 07:53:24 PM

A few egyptiians I have in my deck
characters
The ammunition slave

wow this was worth reading just for the miss spells

Quote from: jbeers285 on March 31, 2012, 03:40:21 PM

So even if like Santa's wrath hammers all your NT heroes the new cove will heal them all

hahahahaha santa's wrath.thats awesome

jbeers285 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 18, 2012, 06:54:59 PM »

its called not paying attention lol

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Author Topic: just thoughts on a possible deck ne thoughts greatly appreciated (Read 4250 times)

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