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Offline Sean

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Greek Defense
« on: June 05, 2019, 04:38:02 PM »
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I am wondering everyone's thoughts on the merits of using weapon class enhancements with a Greek defense.  I'm thinking of this a a counter to TToD, but there aren't a lot of weapons in black and only 2 for orange.  The ones available aren't horrible but aren't spectacular either.  The best ones though, IMO, require discard as the cost so don't continue to serve my intended purpose of a throne counter.  Greeks have 3 warrior class ECs so it should be relatively easy to have a warrior and a weapon at the same time except for the fact that a weapon probably would not make the cut over other enhancements.

Is throne enough of a threat to counter always?

I'm noticing that Greeks have a lot of banding but am really liking how the banding is extremely flexible with how you end the chain as a discard with Epiphanes, or Goat w/ Horn, or heretics, or philosophers.

Have Greeks been a strong defense recently?
 
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Re: Greek Defense
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2019, 04:53:55 PM »
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Greeks already have access to one of the best Throne counters. Abom. I'f they want to draw punish them for it
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Re: Greek Defense
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2019, 04:56:32 PM »
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That's true, but I was think of the play enhancement aspect of throne
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Re: Greek Defense
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2019, 06:03:46 PM »
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You can just force them to draw and discard throne if you have abom out
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Re: Greek Defense
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2019, 09:41:22 PM »
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but there aren't a lot of weapons in black and only 2 for orange

I disagree with this.  Black has 5 and Orange has 3:

Lahmi's Spear
Ishbibenob's Spear
Ishbibenob's Sword
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Every Man's Sword (is also Orange)
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Re: Greek Defense
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2019, 06:51:46 AM »
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I never thought Throne was the issue it was just a draw tactic/decoy. You can easily discard or negate Throne now especially with the new TC ECs and just new ECs in general. Withdrawing and discarding heroes with an EC will already give them initiative and a throne deck does not require throne to draw. I think Greeks got an obvious good boost but I wouldn’t try to stop Throne. Banding and extending the battle seems popular right now, I would try to target that. Black in general now has KoT with Doomed Conspirators, PoZ, Goliath, High Priest Ananias and Outsiders just for ECs alone that punish popular offenses. Add Sheol, some doms and viola, a very strong defense that punishes throne and can block throne and other offenses while still using black. I like the weapons but compared to the rest of the enhs I see trying to fit them in a deck would  make the deck weaker overall.
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Re: Greek Defense
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 08:09:59 AM »
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I was not aware of the reprint for Every Man's Sword.  I think that may be the only one which would make the cut over the other enhancements I would include.  A Greek theme weapon would be nice as a future card.
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