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Offline Reth

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Are (some) classics are still viable in current meta?
« on: February 20, 2020, 01:27:13 PM »
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Hi everybody,

while sorting some recently obtained cards into my collection I came across some RoJ Martyrs and appropriate additional cards and got tempted to construct an own deck around them. Hence I wonder whether those former well placed decks would still be viable in current meta?

So what do you all think - regarding Martyrs et. al. in particular and regarding former (well placed/champion setups) in general?

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Re: Are (some) classics are still viable in current meta?
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2020, 02:21:14 PM »
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Martyrs and clay offenses in general are still very strong. They haven't gotten much the past three years because sets have been focused on the O.T. where opportunities for clay cards rarely exist. Players have moved on to use strategies that are supported by cards from the newest sets. But not only can a clay offense still be really good, it can catch people off guard because they aren't expecting it.
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Re: Are (some) classics are still viable in current meta?
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2020, 02:43:51 PM »
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Has it been so long that Martyrs are considered classic!?  :o
When I saw this thread title I thought this meant BtNB, CtB, heck maybe some Disciples, but Martyrs took me off guard. Martyrs are viable but they have almost no star access. So, although they may be strong, they lack a major new component to the game. When your opponent consistently can get to their resources easier and more efficiently and you have no means to keep up, you are at a severe disadvantage. As clay gains meek and star abilities they will move right back up but I would take any new offense over the last 2-3 years over clay. That doesn’t mean clay won’t win or that clay isn’t good, I still love my Corny Pete offense in T2, and the deck I wanted to (should’ve) played in T2 at nats was a T2 offense but this was due to the deck build. But I’m T1 when you are seemingly racing to your top cards and your opponent has everything you do in theory plus star abilities, you’re at a severe disadvantage. You would have to cater your deck to stopping what you don’t have to be more competitive.
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Re: Are (some) classics are still viable in current meta?
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2020, 03:10:04 PM »
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Protip: running literally any NT deck with the new Accusers soul will mess with a lot of modern decks, especially if you have ways to keep them from just grabbing it with SoG.
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Re: Are (some) classics are still viable in current meta?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2020, 12:06:36 PM »
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Having used a fast Clay offense for several games this past week, I can say that the biggest disadvantage I found was not being able to utilize Storehouse to unclog my hand from excess good enhancements at the end of my turn (i.e. I could put them in Reserve instead of discarding them, but had no way to efficiently return them to my hand later). One of my opponents suggested using House of Prayer, which I strongly considered, but in the end I couldn't justify using 2 deck slots for roughly the same effect (Storehouse and House of Prayer).
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