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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 2 Deck Advice => Topic started by: redemptioncousin on June 05, 2009, 06:09:51 PM

Title: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: redemptioncousin on June 05, 2009, 06:09:51 PM
My main concern is KotW/The Darkness.  Is there any way for green/blue/black to get rid of them???  That's why I have the New beginnings in right now :)

Cards in deck: 126
Lost Souls: 17
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (anti-burial)
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (Protector)
   Lost Soul (Protector)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 4
   High Priest's Palace
   High Priest's Palace
   Storehouse
   Wall of Protection

Multi-Color Sites: 3
   Dragon Raid
   New Jerusalem (site)
   Promised Land

Artifacts: 11
   Asherah Pole
   Asherah Pole
   Chariot of Fire
   Chariot of Fire
   Hidden Treasures
   Hidden Treasures
   Miraculous Handkerchiefs
   Miraculous Handkerchiefs
   Unholy Writ
   Unholy Writ
   Urim and Thummim

White Covenant Cards: 1
   .Captured Ark (Crimson)

Green Heroes: 7
   Abel
   Benaiah
   Benaiah
   Joel
   Micah
   Miriam
   Obadiah

Blue Heroes: 7
   Asher
   Asher
   Jacob
   Jacob
   Jacob
   Levi
   Tribal Elder

Green Hero Enhancements: 16
   A New Beginning
   A New Beginning
   Increasing Numbers
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Search
   Search
   Search
   Search
   Search
   Two Bears
   Two Bears
   Two Bears

Blue Hero Enhancements: 11
   Answer to Prayer
   Answer to Prayer
   Obedience of Noah
   Obedience of Noah
   Obedience of Noah
   Obedience of Noah
   Obedience of Noah
   Paying Tribute
   Paying Tribute
   Reuben's Torn Clothes
   Reuben's Torn Clothes

Black Evil Characters: 24
   Alexander
   Fallen Warrior
   High Priest Ananias
   High Priest Caiaphas
   High Priest Caiaphas
   King Amon
   Lot's Wife
   Lot's Wife
   Manasseh
   Manasseh
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Simon the Magician
   Simon the Magician
   Simon the Magician
   Temple Guard
   Temple Guard
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Black Evil Enhancements: 17
   Devourer
   Devourer
   High Priest's Plot
   High Priest's Plot
   High Priest's Plot
   High Priest's Plot
   High Priest's Plot
   Hunger
   Joseph in Prison
   Joseph in Prison
   Mask of Self-glorification
   Pride of Simon
   Pride of Simon
   Wrath of Satan
   Wrath of Satan
   Wrath of Satan
   Wrath of Satan
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: RedemptionAggie on June 05, 2009, 06:19:30 PM
Blue has Sound the Trumpet to get rid of KotW.

Your ratios aren't right - I get 31 neutral, 47 good, and 48 evil.  Captured Ark may be what's throwing the numbers off - it's evil, not neutral.  And it's certainly not a White Covenant.  ;)
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: lightningninja on June 05, 2009, 06:23:22 PM
Oh, and you have 14 heros and like 50 enhancement... that needs to change.  ;)
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on June 05, 2009, 09:33:15 PM
Cards in deck: 126 to big IMO
Lost Souls: 17
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (*/4)
   Lost Soul (anti-burial)
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (N.T. only)
   Lost Soul (Protector)
   Lost Soul (Protector)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)
   Lost Souls (2-line)
   Lost Souls (2-line)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Guardian Of Your Souls
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 4
   High Priest's Palace
   High Priest's Palace
   Storehouse
   Wall of Protection

Multi-Color Sites: 3
   Dragon Raid
   New Jerusalem (site)
   Promised Land

Artifacts: 11
   Asherah Pole
   Asherah Pole
   Chariot of Fire
   Chariot of Fire
   Hidden Treasures
   Hidden Treasures
   Miraculous Handkerchiefs-both can go
   Miraculous Handkerchiefs-^
   Unholy Writ
   Unholy Writ
   Urim and Thummim-take this out for another writ, that High Palace can store it so you want 3

White Covenant Cards: 1
   .Captured Ark (Crimson)-uhm

Green Heroes: 7- 7 heroes to 16 enhs is way off. Take out some enhs for heroes
   Abel
   Benaiah
   Benaiah
   Joel
   Micah
   Miriam
   Obadiah

Blue Heroes: 7-just a heads up, if someone converts/places one of these guys in your territory then you can not use your blue
   Asher
   Asher
   Jacob
   Jacob
   Jacob
   Levi
   Tribal Elder

Green Hero Enhancements: 16
   A New Beginning
   A New Beginning
   Increasing Numbers-out
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Provisions
   Search
   Search
   Search
   Search-out
   Search-out
   Two Bears
   Two Bears
   Two Bears

Blue Hero Enhancements: 11
   Answer to Prayer
   Answer to Prayer
   Obedience of Noah
   Obedience of Noah
   Obedience of Noah
   Obedience of Noah
   Obedience of Noah
   Paying Tribute-out
   Paying Tribute-out
   Reuben's Torn Clothes
   Reuben's Torn Clothes

Black Evil Characters: 24-way to many
   Alexander-out
   Fallen Warrior
   High Priest Ananias
   High Priest Caiaphas
   High Priest Caiaphas-out
   King Amon
   Lot's Wife
   Lot's Wife
   Manasseh
   Manasseh
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees
   Sadducees-out
   Sadducees-out
   Simon the Magician
   Simon the Magician
   Simon the Magician-out
   Temple Guard
   Temple Guard-out
   The Twelve-Fingered Giant

Black Evil Enhancements: 17
   Devourer
   Devourer
   High Priest's Plot
   High Priest's Plot
   High Priest's Plot
   High Priest's Plot-out or switch for foolish advice
   High Priest's Plot-out or switch for net
   Hunger-i would add a net instead
   Joseph in Prison
   Joseph in Prison
   Mask of Self-glorification
   Pride of Simon
   Pride of Simon
   Wrath of Satan
   Wrath of Satan
   Wrath of Satan-out
   Wrath of Satan-out
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: redemptioncousin on June 06, 2009, 12:45:33 AM
Sry, you're right about the captured ark... that was RTS's doing. :p
I definitely know I need to cut down and also add more heroes... although (with the suggested take-outs) 14 heroes to 22 enhancements isn't bad at all.

Honestly, I really like the defense as is (slimed down of course) but I thought it was a good start.  I would think to keep more Wrath's and the Hankies though... is there anything wrong with my thinking there???
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: RedemptionAggie on June 06, 2009, 01:15:47 AM
I don't know that you need 4 Wraths, but I do like Wrath + Hankies.

Why was U&T in there in the first place?  I don't see any Priests.

Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: Gabe on June 06, 2009, 09:28:09 AM
Why was U&T in there in the first place?  I don't see any Priests.

He has the three evil sadducee high priests. 

Now I wonder who hacked Aggies account and wrote that? :scratch:  ;)
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on June 06, 2009, 10:05:38 PM
Haha Brian's funny. Anyway No need for all those wraths unless you only use hankies. What I mean is you will always have a wrath in your hand and not always have that art up. So take out some wraths and both hankies. Add I Am Healing, that's a great card.
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: redemptioncousin on June 06, 2009, 11:29:41 PM
What's the difference...  I feel like I am Healing is much worse in this situation.  You can only use it twice and it's restricted in the same ways that Hankies are.  Now if it was green or blue... that'd be different.
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: crustpope on June 07, 2009, 08:17:28 PM
Which would be better, Hankies or Covenant of Josiah?

I agree with the idea that you shouldn't rely soly on Wrath because you will probably have to d/c your heroes.  What about some Goshens? YOu can pack up Goshen and then feel free to nuke some of your own heroes because you will have some in reserve.   
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: TechnoEthicist on June 07, 2009, 08:35:33 PM
As a Black Defense Type II player, let me offer you a little advice...there are BETTER cards than Wrath :P, Pushed Back, Intent to Kill, etc. Sadducees and Simon are for using 5 Joseph in Prisons, and if you don't have 5 yet, get some :P Also, Let me advise you against U&T from the evil side...they never come when you want them to...at least I never saw them. Toss in Just a Hireling and and doctrine like leaven to get your Sadds out faster. Also I hardly ever use a character unless I don't have 2 copies of him or her, if legal. Just a thought...good luck.
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: The Guardian on June 29, 2009, 03:00:16 AM
U&T is always worth it. Since you have High Priest Palace, your big guys should stay nice and safe once you draw them, and then its just a matter of drawing U&T if you haven't already. If you don't oh well, a different artifact in that slot wouldn't have helped either since you didn't draw it anyway...
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: RTSmaniac on June 29, 2009, 02:58:13 PM
i have seen so many writs in hhp its not funny. I also like u&t with evil high priest but what do i know im a combo junkie and got beat by hiatus 7-0 last tourney:p
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on June 29, 2009, 10:55:02 PM
Lol Clift shut up. I got beat 7-0 by a deck I have played countless times and has not changed in three years...
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: lightningninja on June 30, 2009, 01:44:29 AM
I think he was complimenting you... unless you were also joking.... :scratch:
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: Captain Kirk on June 30, 2009, 10:16:09 AM
Its just banter.

Kirk
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: RTSmaniac on July 01, 2009, 01:23:21 AM
hiatus was talking about me beating him past 3 years with sin in camp deck
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: lightningninja on July 01, 2009, 02:54:33 PM
Its just banter.

Kirk
If you were quoting who I think you were, major credit man!
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on July 01, 2009, 11:38:17 PM
Yeah he beat me past 3 years practically every time we play until tournaments come. Then I make a anti clift deck and put random cards in it which are solely made to stop speed camp. I only played him at one tournament at GA state last year and I beat him with the jankness.
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: RTSmaniac on July 02, 2009, 12:07:24 AM
and now in the back of his mind he tries to incorporate something into every deck he makes thatll at least help him if he faces such nasty- man what pressure!
Title: Re: Type 2 first legit try.
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on July 02, 2009, 12:26:34 AM
Haha he is right. I hate that stupid deck.
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