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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 2 Deck Advice => Topic started by: Alex_Olijar on June 08, 2009, 05:08:50 PM

Title: New at T2
Post by: Alex_Olijar on June 08, 2009, 05:08:50 PM: Cards in deck: 112
39/39/34

Lost Souls: 15
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (Color Guard)
   Lost Soul (Color Guard)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (female only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (Site Discard)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Soul (site doubler)
   Lost Soul (site remove)
   Lost Soul (site remove)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)

Multi-Color Sites: 2
   Promised Land
   Promised Land

Red Sites: 5
   Babylon
   Babylon
   Babylon
   Babylon
   Babylon

Green Sites: 2
   Babylonian Banquet Hall
   Babylonian Banquet Hall

Blue Sites: 2
   Hormah
   Hormah

Purple Sites: 2
   Pergamum
   Pergamum

Artifacts: 6
   Chariot of Fire
   Chariot of Fire
   Stone Pillar at Bethel
   Stone Pillar at Bethel
   The Bronze Laver
   The Bronze Laver

Lamb Dominants: 3
   Angel of the Lord
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Gold Covenant Cards: 1
   I am Healing

Blue Covenant Cards: 2
   Covenant of Noah
   Covenant of Noah

Silver Heroes: 3
   Captain of the Host
   Captain of the Host
   Seraphim

Blue Heroes: 14
   Asher
   Benjamin
   Benjamin
   Benjamin
   Jacob
   Jacob
   Jacob
   Jacob
   Rebekah
   Rebekah
   Sarah
   Sarah
   Simeon
   Simeon

Silver Hero Enhancements: 2
   Protection of Angels
   Protection of Angels

Blue Hero Enhancements: 14
   Abraham's Servant to Ur
   Abraham's Servant to Ur
   Answer to Prayer
   Answer to Prayer
   Buying Grain
   Buying Grain
   Jacob's Dream
   Jacob's Dream
   Jubilee
   Jubilee
   Reuben's Torn Clothes
   Reuben's Torn Clothes
   Reuben's Torn Clothes
   Reuben's Torn Clothes

Brown Curse Cards: 2
   Plagued with Diseases
   Plagued with Diseases

Grim Reaper Dominants: 3
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan

Fortresses: 2
   Kingdoms of the World
   Kingdoms of the World

Brown Evil Characters: 15
   Abner
   Abner
   Complainers
   Complainers
   Esau
   Esau
   Haman
   King Jeroboam I
   King Nadab
   The Jeering Youths
   The Jeering Youths
   Unclean Spirit
   Unclean Spirit
   Uzzah
   Uzzah

Brown Evil Enhancements: 17
   Crucify Him
   Crucify Him
   Dungeon of Malchiah
   Dungeon of Malchiah
   Dungeon of Malchiah
   Gibeonite Trickery
   Gibeonite Trickery
   Gibeonite Trickery
   Gibeonite Trickery
   Gibeonite Trickery
   Korah's Rebellion
   Stiff-Necked
   Stiff-Necked
   Taking Naboth's Vineyard
   Taking Naboth's Vineyard
   Weakness
   Weakness

This is my first type 2. How is it? I don't know too many common themes, so any counters that are staples in Type 2 that I am missing?
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: Gabe on June 08, 2009, 05:53:02 PM: Dungeon of Malchiah is much better when played on King Zed. It seems like at least a couple copies of him are in order. King Zed also makes a great target for Obedience of Noah which I noticed your missing. I wouldn't play a full compliment of 5 OoN because people are prepared for CTB but a few copies can still be nice and win you a LS from time to time.
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: Captain Kirk on June 08, 2009, 05:58:27 PM: You use the Anti Ignore LS in conjunction with RTC? That seems counter-intuitive...

A good rule of thumb in T2 is that if you are only using one copy of an enhancement, then you probably shouldn't use it at all. I'd toss out Korah's Rebellion for Love of Money to help against CtB decks. Also, UN x2 is pretty much a safe bet in any T2 deck with more than a couple humans so you might want to try to fit those in. You also have no way to stop capture, so I would include Blue Tassels or I am Redemption. Otherwise, a Babylonian defense will capture your whole offense... ;)

Kirk
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: Sean on June 08, 2009, 06:00:32 PM: If you're going to use Sites and brown I would suggest Samaria, King Omri, King Joram, and Land Purchase.

The change I'd make would look like this:

Babylon x5 => Samaria x5
Abner x2 => King Omri x2
King Jeroboam => King Joram x1
King Nadab => King Joram x1
Gibeonite Trickery x1 => Land Purchase x1
Korah's Rebellion x1 => Land Purchase x1

I personally like brown without Sites but it is good with them as well. On offense I would take out Jubilee x2 and go with Lamenting for Jephthah's Daughter x2.

On the whole you can't really go wrong with Genesis and brown.
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: Alex_Olijar on June 08, 2009, 09:43:40 PM: Quote from: BrianGabe on June 08, 2009, 05:53:02 PM
Dungeon of Malchiah is much better when played on King Zed. It seems like at least a couple copies of him are in order. King Zed also makes a great target for Obedience of Noah which I noticed your missing. I wouldn't play a full compliment of 5 OoN because people are prepared for CTB but a few copies can still be nice and win you a LS from time to time.

This is why I post. I don't know why King Zed is not in here. I'll update that in a little. I didn't use Obedience intentionally. I put Buying Grain in instead, since less people will expect that.
Quote from: Captain Kirk on June 08, 2009, 05:58:27 PM
You use the Anti Ignore LS in conjunction with RTC? That seems counter-intuitive...

A good rule of thumb in T2 is that if you are only using one copy of an enhancement, then you probably shouldn't use it at all. I'd toss out Korah's Rebellion for Love of Money to help against CtB decks. Also, UN x2 is pretty much a safe bet in any T2 deck with more than a couple humans so you might want to try to fit those in. You also have no way to stop capture, so I would include Blue Tassels or I am Redemption. Otherwise, a Babylonian defense will capture your whole offense... ;)

Kirk

Hmm. Makes sense there. I'll add in some Tassels. Love of Money seems like a smart choice too.
Quote from: Sean on June 08, 2009, 06:00:32 PM
If you're going to use Sites and brown I would suggest Samaria, King Omri, King Joram, and Land Purchase.

The change I'd make would look like this:

Babylon x5 => Samaria x5
Abner x2 => King Omri x2
King Jeroboam => King Joram x1
King Nadab => King Joram x1
Gibeonite Trickery x1 => Land Purchase x1
Korah's Rebellion x1 => Land Purchase x1

I personally like brown without Sites but it is good with them as well. On offense I would take out Jubilee x2 and go with Lamenting for Jephthah's Daughter x2.

On the whole you can't really go wrong with Genesis and brown.

The whole seems nice, but I'm not sure about moving into Samaria's just yet. I'll need to get in a few games first I think. Lamenting is a nice suggestion though, I might add that right now.
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: RTSmaniac on June 11, 2009, 01:37:17 AM: no chemosh?
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: RTSmaniac on June 11, 2009, 01:41:24 AM: what about amilkite slave...
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: Red on June 11, 2009, 09:43:33 AM: you need to take out 1 promised land it's ileagal at 2
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: DaClock on June 11, 2009, 11:00:22 AM: Quote from: RED on June 11, 2009, 09:43:33 AM
you need to take out 1 promised land it's ileagal at 2

No it isn't. It is a site with a special ability. 1 Per 50.
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: Red on June 11, 2009, 11:39:56 AM: it is muticolor
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: Captain Kirk on June 11, 2009, 11:42:00 AM: Site rules vary from the normal multi-color restrictions.

Kirk
Title: Re: New at T2
Post by: Red on June 11, 2009, 11:46:41 AM: thanks for clearing that up i did't know.