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What would make a good T2 multi deck for NATS?

Disciples/Heritics sounds good to me. Maybe Job.dek?

ok how about Prophets with Obadiahs Cave for all the writ/charm lovers and i can shuffle my opponents EC so they dont lose them entirely...

duh duh duhhh.... white women!! For real! words x5, he is risen x5, consider x5, 8 to 10 ladies to help out suzzy. you should be recurring the same card with consider and not he is risen

duh duh duhhh.... white women!! For real! words x5, he is risen x5, consider x5, 8 to 10 ladies to help out suzzy. you should be recurring the same card with consider and not he is risen

(Covenant of) Abraham says, "Bring 'em on!"   

Or have three people play phars and you play a nicodemus deck. With SWS and Gomer for epic banding to all their Phars.

That's why I suggested what I did. Pharisees/Magicians with High Priest's Palace and Magic Charms, and UW inside the palace is nasty. Divination to set up, Pharisees for speed, and Pretension/Magic Charms to hurt players who are attacking the weaker defense at the time.

Blue Tassels and Obadiah's Caves solves that problem. Usually, the Writs and Charms don't start flying until towards the end, so you'll have time to grab them from your deck.

Better, but a deck without silver should still be able to be competitive.

I think that any competitive T2 Multi deck should be Silver and something. Whether that's Silver and Job, Silver and TGT ladies, Silver and Judges, or Silver and Prophets, you're doing yourself a disservice if you don't use some silver. There are way too many Writs, Charms, and Balaam's Disobedience's around to afford not having some Silver.

Even if it's just a couple copies of The Strong Angel.

I tend to use lots of Heroes in T2 MP so that I am rarely unable to attack due to lack of Heroes. This means I usually have room for a few "splash" Heroes who aren't necessarily part of my main offense, (though it's even better if they do fit in some ways).

Sure there are almost every game I give you a free soul or two. Sometimes you have to even out the scores and not waste your defense on the loser.

But some times you just want MJB to lose by 7, so you have to block him.

That does get annoying. It's even worse in Booster draft. Even if I'm the one who's about to win because a player with an available soul exhausted all of their defense trying to stop the person with 2 souls, it's still kind of lame.

Oh hush. I still think I made the right choice. Justin had to be blocked at least once if I wanted a shot to win that game, and I didn't think he'd be able to kill my fish.

Quote from: STAMP on March 31, 2011, 11:45:53 AM

Quote from: TheHobbit13 on March 31, 2011, 11:43:38 AM

Sure there are almost every game I give you a free soul or two. Sometimes you have to even out the scores and not waste your defense on the loser.

Exactly.  My one pet peeve is that some players do not understand this concept when playing multi-player.

That's your only pet peeve?

Also: I agree to everyone above.

Well...that's my one pet peeve while playing.  I think I may have more than one when it comes to hosting, judging, deck-checking, etc.   

I don't like having a target on my head just cuz I sit down to play a friendly game of type 2 multiplayer.

I feel the same way with type 1 multi.

But some times you just want MJB to lose by 7, so you have to block him.

Ha.  I'll lose by seven whether you block me or not!  

Quote from: Mr.Hiatus on March 31, 2011, 03:52:40 PM

I don't like having a target on my head just cuz I sit down to play a friendly game of type 2 multiplayer.

"It doesn't matter if everyone else has 3 Lost Souls rescued and Justin has 0. Justin is still winning."

That's right--you should just let the best player at the table have Lost Souls for no reason.  

As a person who has played T2 multi games where I have been hit with double-digit dominants, I don't understand this plaint at all.  If I have an early Falling Away in my hand, I would have absolutely no qualms about playing it against either of you even if you were behind. People do the same to me.

yes, it is also frusterating  when someone announces before the game, "this guy is really good play all your dominants on him". 

I got hit with Gabriel like 4 times when the guy wasn't even attacking me. CM when I had zero and one person had 3-4 withought playing sog nj. I think I took one FA, Burial, 2x CM.. I cant remmeber. needless to say i lost.

I am thinking BD, with the new cards and all, will take away a lot of the new players from type two multi (the nature of it exculdes many new players right of the bat anyways). I bet it is going to be small yet quite skilled type 2 multi. Should be a blast.

Bryon came over one game at nationals and had to give a warning to the other two players at one of my games. They would only block each other if they could hurt me somehow, and all dominants went on me, and I was the only one really being blocked.

Just to be clear--this is way outside what I was talking about.

That said if I am at a table with two average players and someone of the caliber of you or Justin you are going to get targeted until there is a reason to go after one of the other two. Now, am I going to play SoG defensively to stop you from getting your first LS? No, but I would have absolutely no compunction against using a Falling Away against you even if one of the other players was nominally ahead (say 3-2 or 3-1). At that point you are still going to be the biggest threat to me winning the game. That is one of the burdens that superior players need to bear.

I'm playing type 2 multi at nationals this year and I haven't played sine California because of that game, so I'm hoping it goes better.  My favorite type 2 multi games are the top table ones, where you know everyone is a potential threat, and everyone knows what they are doing.

I have played T2-multi pick up games at Wild Bill's game nights where having only a second place at Nationals meant you were the weak sister. T2-multi at Nats this year is going to rock.  Unless...

yes, it is also frusterating  when someone announces before the game, "this guy is really good play all your dominants on him".  

That is an unfair characterization.  I merely mentioned to the two RLK at our table that you were a reigning National Champion and almost impossible to beat (both of which were true). They came up with the idea of playing all of their dominants on you all on their own. Plus this was T1-MP and doesn't have anything to do with T2 multi.  

I did apologize to you after. It never dawned on me that one of them would use Falling Away to take away the single Lost Soul you had rescued when I had 4 in my land of redemption. As funny as it was to see happen, I did feel bad for you. On the bright side, you got a good story out of it.

But I have been the target of a gang, so I know what you guys mean.

With the exception of the one game discussed above with the RLKs and the Hobbit, I have never been in a game like Mr. Hiatus describes at the top. I hope my explanation clarifies where I was coming from before.

I am thinking BD, with the new cards and all, will take away a lot of the new players from type two multi (the nature of it exculdes many new players right of the bat anyways). I bet it is going to be small yet quite skilled type 2 multi. Should be a blast.

Yes I am very much looking forward to type 2 multiplayer this year at nationals.

That said if I am at a table with two average players and someone of the caliber of you or Justin you are going to get targeted until there is a reason to go after one of the other two. Now, am I going to play SoG defensively to stop you from getting your first LS? No, but I would have absolutely no compunction against using a Falling Away against you even if one of the other players was nominally ahead (say 3-2 or 3-1). At that point you are still going to be the biggest threat to me winning the game. That is one of the burdens that superior players need to bear.

I completely agree. I do that to other top players. I know for a fact that there are certain players that can easily come back from 3-3-3-1, them being 1 and I am all for targeting them over less experienced players, even if those players have 3. So I think we are all on the same page here. You rank consistently at top tournaments you better either not play multiplayer, or come prepared.